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Post by hawk on Jun 5, 2020 15:01:30 GMT -5
This just keeps going. Watching you guys go back and forth is mind numbing. It truly shows that we are not very far away from being a failed democracy. There is never any middle ground anymore. We are so fucked as a country. All people can do is blame and never work out solutions. Democrat or Republican, you are both equally to blame and both completely out of your minds. The blame is nowhere near equal. I have noticed over the last few years, not just during the covid era, that liberals seem to be judging people as human beings based on their political philosophy, and actively trying to create a social divide in our society. It's trully sad to see the hate and vitriol from liberals. It's a you are with us or against us philosophy, sad... Zen Master and GMs posts really exemplify this dynamic. The last time society was this divided politically was when the Democrats wanted to keep their slaves, but the Republicans prevailed. I think living here in new england you have a very narrow perspective. I disagree and think it is equally both. Do you think it is the same in places like Georgia, Texas, Kentucky,etc. I can see both sides and disgree with both sides on different issues.
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Post by what is hip ? on Jun 5, 2020 15:09:58 GMT -5
We need to do better. We need to be better and we need to do better. All of us. That’s what all of this is all about. Expectations need to change. Status quo needs to change. Me. You. Us. Them. Everybody. Taking sides doesn’t work. So what are YOU going to do to do better? Please don't lump me in with you. If you need to do better, then please do better. How can you assume others aren't doing a better job than you. How can you assume I don't already meet the expectations of already doing better. Who's rules are we using? What's the scale we are measuring against?
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Post by what is hip ? on Jun 5, 2020 15:11:16 GMT -5
Again, he came towards the line at the start of the video. We are missing context from even 5 seconds earlier. They didn't need to push the guy and certainly should have stopped to assist, especially if bleeding post push from his ears. Again, this is a tense time. I have no idea how things have been going in Buffalo, how many hours on duty in the past week the officiers have put in, how many tense situations they have dealt with. Have you? And if you were there MB, would you in your right mind have allowed your elderly father to approach that Police line? I think not, I think THAT is how you would have protected your father. So, I will again back my position. If you decide to approach a Police line in a tense situation, that is your decision and you are at least partly responsible for the consequences of your actions. Tired of everything is someone else's fault in this country. You’re splitting hairs. The police are not approaching a foreign enemy line. This is fucking Buffalo on a nice sunny day, in America. And a skinny old guy feels like me - they’re a bunch of over-militarized people that have trained for battle - not protesting people. Who are they “protecting”? They had more gear than guys landing at D-Day. I am sick and tired of it. That incident was awful and shouldn’t have happened, period. Curious what you are going to do when one of your grand kids says, "Granny, I want to be in the policy when I grow up"
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 5, 2020 15:25:21 GMT -5
We need to do better. We need to be better and we need to do better. All of us. That’s what all of this is all about. Expectations need to change. Status quo needs to change. Me. You. Us. Them. Everybody. Taking sides doesn’t work. So what are YOU going to do to do better? Please don't lump me in with you. If you need to do better, then please do better. How can you assume others aren't doing a better job than you. How can you assume I don't already meet the expectations of already doing better. Who's rules are we using? What's the scale we are measuring against? Unless you’re the only perfect person on the planet, you can do better. Just think about it. And if not, congrats on your unicorn status.
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Post by what is hip ? on Jun 5, 2020 15:40:17 GMT -5
So what are YOU going to do to do better? Please don't lump me in with you. If you need to do better, then please do better. How can you assume others aren't doing a better job than you. How can you assume I don't already meet the expectations of already doing better. Who's rules are we using? What's the scale we are measuring against? Unless you’re the only perfect person on the planet, you can do better. Just think about it. And if not, congrats on your unicorn status. nope - not perfect. Words are meaningless unless you back it up. Please let us all know what you are doing to be better. Maybe we all can follow along with what you are doing. Please share.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 15:57:53 GMT -5
We need to do better. We need to be better and we need to do better. All of us. That’s what all of this is all about. Expectations need to change. Status quo needs to change. Me. You. Us. Them. Everybody. Taking sides doesn’t work. So what are YOU going to do to do better? Please don't lump me in with you. If you need to do better, then please do better. How can you assume others aren't doing a better job than you. How can you assume I don't already meet the expectations of already doing better. Who's rules are we using? What's the scale we are measuring against? This guy is the biggest bullshitter in here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 15:58:50 GMT -5
Unless you’re the only perfect person on the planet, you can do better. Just think about it. And if not, congrats on your unicorn status. nope - not perfect. Words are meaningless unless you back it up. Please let us all know what you are doing to be better. Maybe we all can follow along with what you are doing. Please share. Can’t wait for his answer.
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Post by what is hip ? on Jun 5, 2020 16:02:41 GMT -5
nope - not perfect. Words are meaningless unless you back it up. Please let us all know what you are doing to be better. Maybe we all can follow along with what you are doing. Please share. Can’t wait for his answer. He'll answer, but it will be a word salad of nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 17:44:08 GMT -5
Can’t wait for his answer. He'll answer, but it will be a word salad of nothing. 🤣🤣🤣Ya gotta love him leading the social justice charge from one of the least diverse states in the country. Funny shit.
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Post by riverskier on Jun 5, 2020 19:30:40 GMT -5
nope - not perfect. Words are meaningless unless you back it up. Please let us all know what you are doing to be better. Maybe we all can follow along with what you are doing. Please share. Can’t wait for his answer. I cant wait for the answer as well... I am not racist in any way, so unsure how I can possibly do better in that regard. Apparently we ALL need to do better though, so awaiting the road map...
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Post by bob on Jun 5, 2020 20:18:51 GMT -5
I would like to know why those PEACEFULLY protesting the lockdown lunacy were putting the lives of 1st responders and health care workers in jeopardy. This according to the lockdown forever SJW's who now cheer and fawn over rioting and looting? Did COVID just take a break for the Floyd riots? Here's some reality: This lockdown caused the riots. Frustration over loss of Jobs, schools, sports, going to the gym, church, restaurants, movies, Bars, AA meetings, vacations, shopping etc caused this scale of reaction. You cannot yank away all of the recreation and institutions of a society without serious blowback. This was avoidable.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 5, 2020 20:45:29 GMT -5
This has to one of the most insincere groups of trolls on the interwebs. So much contempt. I feel bad for you, and worse for those around you. Hopefully you’ll find peace at some point.
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Post by riverskier on Jun 5, 2020 20:58:25 GMT -5
This has to one of the most insincere groups of trolls on the interwebs. So much contempt. I feel bad for you, and worse for those around you. Hopefully you’ll find peace at some point. I think WIH nailed it, you answered with a "word salad of nothing". Still awaiting an actual answer... we all need to do better, what are you doing?
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 5, 2020 21:29:57 GMT -5
This has to one of the most insincere groups of trolls on the interwebs. So much contempt. I feel bad for you, and worse for those around you. Hopefully you’ll find peace at some point. I think WIH nailed it, you answered with a "word salad of nothing". Still awaiting an actual answer... we all need to do better, what are you doing? You are just trolling. You have shown nothing but contempt for anything related to the topic at hand (“This whole social injustice narrative is a bunch of bs”) and only want an answer so you can mock it, that’s your track record. If that’s “word salad” or somehow not clear enough for you to understand then so be it I guess. I hope you find peace.
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Post by riverskier on Jun 5, 2020 22:04:27 GMT -5
I think WIH nailed it, you answered with a "word salad of nothing". Still awaiting an actual answer... we all need to do better, what are you doing? You are just trolling. You have shown nothing but contempt for anything related to the topic at hand (“This whole social injustice narrative is a bunch of bs”) and only want an answer so you can mock it, that’s your track record. If that’s “word salad” or somehow not clear enough for you to understand then so be it I guess. I am actually not trolling at all, and I was legitimately curious what your answer would be. You have determined that we all need to do better, just curious what you mean by that, so thought your personal plan may provide some insights. I thought I was doing ok personally, but according to you I need to do more, so it seems like a fair question... As for my last response, WIH accurately predicted that you wouldnt actually provide an answer, and, well, you still haven't, so I guess he was right. That said, your last 2 posts really reflect the hate and anger from the left that I alluded to last night. I have conservative/Libertarian views on things. I think Maine should be 100% open and thriving right now. I am happy about the border wall, dont want anyone here illegally. I think kneeling during the national anthem is unpatriotic and disrespects the flag and the military- plenty of other ways to advocate for a cause. PUA is one of the most disgusting pieces of legislation I have ever seen. You get the point, but guess what? I dont think any less of those who disagree with me. There is a lot of hate from the left right now for anyone that doesnt support their agenda, and your posts really seem to exemplify that. There is no absolute right or wrong in political philosophy. It is all about the role you want government to play in your life.
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