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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 21, 2020 11:44:59 GMT -5
Downhill travelers have responsibility as well, which too many people don’t seem to understand or care about...not saying you specifically but I see and hear about it all the time, and I’ve too many close calls almost been taken out from behind when tethering a Maine Adaptive skier (on beginner/learning terrain, mostly by people who are coming down from the upper mtn and think it is some kind of race to the bottom) to want think about. Bottom line is everyone should know the responsibility code and be in control and ready/able to avoid unexpected objects, etc. My exact point, thanks for reinforcing it. You’re welcome. Sounded like you were putting all the responsibility on the uphill skier, but glad we agree. |
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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 21, 2020 11:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 21, 2020 12:27:36 GMT -5
good discussion, I will add just because SL and Loon do things one way...doesnt mean SR has to follow. Boyne surely allows resorts to make their own decisions. The up hill vibe at SR is really positive, huge pick up this year. Same topics were discussed past few years....if we all follow policies and code we can co-exist...not really sure why some are questioning the activity...if you do not want to do it/ do not like it...thats fine. I personally wouldn't ride a snow bike, but do not question those who do.
As for Promotory, on Saturday....we got to top of Locke and had amazing view...only our crew, the liftie at top shed and a patroller...others were in line 1500 feet below waiting for the lift to take them to the top. Many would describe that as a great spot. As for going the wrong way, yes I run against traffic as that is what you are supposed to do...and I run up hill against traffic when there is a hill involved. No, I do not run red lights on my bike, but some do. So do drivers....not sure what the point is.
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 21, 2020 13:04:23 GMT -5
good discussion, I will add just because SL and Loon do things one way...doesnt mean SR has to follow. Boyne surely allows resorts to make their own decisions. The up hill vibe at SR is really positive, huge pick up this year. Same topics were discussed past few years....if we all follow policies and code we can co-exist...not really sure why some are questioning the activity...if you do not want to do it/ do not like it...thats fine. I personally wouldn't ride a snow bike, but do not question those who do. As for Promotory, on Saturday....we got to top of Locke and had amazing view...only our crew, the liftie at top shed and a patroller...others were in line 1500 feet below waiting for the lift to take them to the top. Many would describe that as a great spot. As for going the wrong way, yes I run against traffic as that is what you are supposed to do...and I run up hill against traffic when there is a hill involved. No, I do not run red lights on my bike, but some do. So do drivers....not sure what the point is. Did you read my original post? I am not talking about 7:00 AM, what I saw was a group of people at 9:00 AM in the area I mentioned, a group of 3 across later in the day coming up Roadrunner. I didn't ask you if you "run" against traffic....I asked about cycling against traffic. When you don't run red lights, do you stop in the middle of intersections? You don't ride your bike on the Maine Turnpike? There is a time and place for everything. There are rules/policies and everyone follows we can coexist. I think we can all agree on that. BTW I hope someone is checking tickets on all the uphill folks. |
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Post by hawk on Dec 21, 2020 13:13:30 GMT -5
good discussion, I will add just because SL and Loon do things one way...doesnt mean SR has to follow. Boyne surely allows resorts to make their own decisions. The up hill vibe at SR is really positive, huge pick up this year. Same topics were discussed past few years....if we all follow policies and code we can co-exist...not really sure why some are questioning the activity...if you do not want to do it/ do not like it...thats fine. I personally wouldn't ride a snow bike, but do not question those who do. As for Promotory, on Saturday....we got to top of Locke and had amazing view...only our crew, the liftie at top shed and a patroller...others were in line 1500 feet below waiting for the lift to take them to the top. Many would describe that as a great spot. As for going the wrong way, yes I run against traffic as that is what you are supposed to do...and I run up hill against traffic when there is a hill involved. No, I do not run red lights on my bike, but some do. So do drivers....not sure what the point is. Did you read my original post? I am not talking about 7:00 AM, what I saw was a group of people at 9:00 AM in the area I mentioned, a group of 3 across later in the day coming up Roadrunner. I didn't ask you if you "run" against traffic....I asked about cycling against traffic. When you don't run red lights, do you stop in the middle of intersections? You don't ride your bike on the Maine Turnpike? There is a time and place for everything. There are rules/policies and everyone follows we can coexist. I think we can all agree on that. BTW I hope someone is checking tickets on all the uphill folks. Really? LOL |
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 21, 2020 13:18:47 GMT -5
good discussion, I will add just because SL and Loon do things one way...doesnt mean SR has to follow. Boyne surely allows resorts to make their own decisions. The up hill vibe at SR is really positive, huge pick up this year. Same topics were discussed past few years....if we all follow policies and code we can co-exist...not really sure why some are questioning the activity...if you do not want to do it/ do not like it...thats fine. I personally wouldn't ride a snow bike, but do not question those who do. As for Promotory, on Saturday....we got to top of Locke and had amazing view...only our crew, the liftie at top shed and a patroller...others were in line 1500 feet below waiting for the lift to take them to the top. Many would describe that as a great spot. As for going the wrong way, yes I run against traffic as that is what you are supposed to do...and I run up hill against traffic when there is a hill involved. No, I do not run red lights on my bike, but some do. So do drivers....not sure what the point is. Did you read my original post? I am not talking about 7:00 AM, what I saw was a group of people at 9:00 AM in the area I mentioned, a group of 3 across later in the day coming up Roadrunner. I didn't ask you if you "run" against traffic....I asked about cycling against traffic. When you don't run red lights, do you stop in the middle of intersections? You don't ride your bike on the Maine Turnpike? There is a time and place for everything. There are rules/policies and everyone follows we can coexist. I think we can all agree on that. BTW I hope someone is checking tickets on all the uphill folks. do you think the people that are going uphill just came to go uphill and don't have passes? I think we are saying the same thing, everyone needs to follow rules. But folks going uphill have the same rights to be there as folks going downhill, simple as that. I am allowed, by rules, to go uphill at anytime on trails that are open to uphill provided I follow the rules...its really as simple as that. |
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Post by Spaffy on Dec 21, 2020 13:29:37 GMT -5
PR--Saturday afternoon around 230 on Roadrunner? If so I met those folks at the top for a beer. If so ill try to educate them.
Maybe you should get some exercise to work off all those donuts from SRBC.
Once mother nature cooperates we will skin elsewhere during lift operation times
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 21, 2020 13:51:41 GMT -5
Did you read my original post? I am not talking about 7:00 AM, what I saw was a group of people at 9:00 AM in the area I mentioned, a group of 3 across later in the day coming up Roadrunner. I didn't ask you if you "run" against traffic....I asked about cycling against traffic. When you don't run red lights, do you stop in the middle of intersections? You don't ride your bike on the Maine Turnpike? There is a time and place for everything. There are rules/policies and everyone follows we can coexist. I think we can all agree on that. BTW I hope someone is checking tickets on all the uphill folks. do you think the people that are going uphill just came to go uphill and don't have passes? I think we are saying the same thing, everyone needs to follow rules. But folks going uphill have the same rights to be there as folks going downhill, simple as that. I am allowed, by rules, to go uphill at anytime on trails that are open to uphill provided I follow the rules...its really as simple as that. You think everyone has a pass that goes up and has a "right" to be there....if they have a pass or paid $15 for an uphill travel ticket. Uphill Access Policy Sunday River allows skinning, snowshoeing, hiking, and other types of uphill travel in winter. For the safety of everyone on the mountain, we ask that anyone participating in these activities adhere to the following guidelines. Failure to adhere to do so jeopardizes uphill access for everyone. All uphill travel is done at each individual's own risk. A valid season pass or lift ticket is required for all access to the mountain, including uphill travel. If you do not have a pass or lift ticket, uphill travel tickets are $15 and available lift ticket windows.
The mountain is open to uphill travel from 30 minutes before the start of operations to 30 minutes after last chair. You may only travel on terrain that is designated as open on the trail report. Pre- and post-season access is not permitted. Uphill travel is not allowed on Ecstasy, Grand Rapids, and Kansas, however, Kansas is allowed when lifts 14 and 15 are closed due to wind. Ski Patrol reserves the right to close the mountain to these activities at any time due to weather, snow conditions, or other factors. Sledding is not permitted on any part of the mountain at any time. Terrain parks are closed during non-operational hours. Winch cat operation happens daily and poses the threat of serious injury or death to persons who come into contact with the cable. The cable may be hard to detect as it can oscillate between being buried in the snow and being visible as load is applied to it by the groomer which can be up to 3000 feet away. Stay clear of and yield to all mountain operations work and equipment, including but not limited to grooming machines, snowmaking equipment, snowmobiles, and lifts. No dogs are allowed on the mountain during hours of operation, except service dogs, which must be on a leash. To contact ski patrol to report an injury or request assistance during resort operating hours call 207-824-5350. Ski patrol is not available during non-operating hours. Be aware that on-mountain cell phone service is not always available. |
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 21, 2020 13:54:06 GMT -5
PR--Saturday afternoon around 230 on Roadrunner? If so I met those folks at the top for a beer. If so ill try to educate them. Maybe you should get some exercise to work off all those donuts from SRBC. Once mother nature cooperates we will skin elsewhere during lift operation times Can't wait until all the entitled are gone.....it was closer to 11:00. I was probably already down the SRBC by 2:30, no I was at the Matterhorn - I spend money and support the local businesses. |
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 21, 2020 15:32:22 GMT -5
PR--Saturday afternoon around 230 on Roadrunner? If so I met those folks at the top for a beer. If so ill try to educate them. Maybe you should get some exercise to work off all those donuts from SRBC. Once mother nature cooperates we will skin elsewhere during lift operation times Can't wait until all the entitled are gone.....it was closer to 11:00. I was probably already down the SRBC by 2:30, no I was at the Matterhorn - I spend money and support the local businesses. Wait are you actually against folks going uphill? |
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 21, 2020 15:33:44 GMT -5
do you think the people that are going uphill just came to go uphill and don't have passes? I think we are saying the same thing, everyone needs to follow rules. But folks going uphill have the same rights to be there as folks going downhill, simple as that. I am allowed, by rules, to go uphill at anytime on trails that are open to uphill provided I follow the rules...its really as simple as that. You think everyone has a pass that goes up and has a "right" to be there....if they have a pass or paid $15 for an uphill travel ticket. Uphill Access Policy Sunday River allows skinning, snowshoeing, hiking, and other types of uphill travel in winter. For the safety of everyone on the mountain, we ask that anyone participating in these activities adhere to the following guidelines. Failure to adhere to do so jeopardizes uphill access for everyone. All uphill travel is done at each individual's own risk. A valid season pass or lift ticket is required for all access to the mountain, including uphill travel. If you do not have a pass or lift ticket, uphill travel tickets are $15 and available lift ticket windows.
The mountain is open to uphill travel from 30 minutes before the start of operations to 30 minutes after last chair. You may only travel on terrain that is designated as open on the trail report. Pre- and post-season access is not permitted. Uphill travel is not allowed on Ecstasy, Grand Rapids, and Kansas, however, Kansas is allowed when lifts 14 and 15 are closed due to wind. Ski Patrol reserves the right to close the mountain to these activities at any time due to weather, snow conditions, or other factors. Sledding is not permitted on any part of the mountain at any time. Terrain parks are closed during non-operational hours. Winch cat operation happens daily and poses the threat of serious injury or death to persons who come into contact with the cable. The cable may be hard to detect as it can oscillate between being buried in the snow and being visible as load is applied to it by the groomer which can be up to 3000 feet away. Stay clear of and yield to all mountain operations work and equipment, including but not limited to grooming machines, snowmaking equipment, snowmobiles, and lifts. No dogs are allowed on the mountain during hours of operation, except service dogs, which must be on a leash. To contact ski patrol to report an injury or request assistance during resort operating hours call 207-824-5350. Ski patrol is not available during non-operating hours. Be aware that on-mountain cell phone service is not always available. I think we have covered this, I know the rules. And yes I think everyone that is going up does have a pass....not my job to patrol. Pre RFD, do you think everyone had a pass that was skiing? I can guarantee you, many skied without buying passes. Again, not sure what the point is. |
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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 21, 2020 15:48:10 GMT -5
Can't wait until all the entitled are gone..... You'll be waiting for a very long time. There are entitled people all over the place, going up, down, and sideways, all season long at any major ski resort. |
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Post by fireball on Dec 21, 2020 15:52:36 GMT -5
Oh em gee this thread is FASCINATING.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 21, 2020 15:57:33 GMT -5
Entitled people, best line of day for people out trying to have some fun. I think PR has a hard on for people that exercise. Kind of guy who swerves at cyclists on the road while drinking big gulp.
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 21, 2020 16:01:14 GMT -5
Can't wait until all the entitled are gone.....it was closer to 11:00. I was probably already down the SRBC by 2:30, no I was at the Matterhorn - I spend money and support the local businesses. Wait are you actually against folks going uphill? Not at all if you have an RFID or Day Pass. Follow the rules and protocols, no issue. There are a lot more going uphill these days, creating unsafe situations for themselves and those coming downhill. Are you going to ask me what my point is again? Same as yours, you noted 3 near collisions in an earlier post, is that not enough? Mach's issue on Lights Out. Mine on Roadrunner....whatever. |
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