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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jul 11, 2020 17:44:22 GMT -5
Same graph but notice the uptick...maybe I will do a bit of a piece on trend lines....yes, we are not at levels we were during peak death, but we are above the levels we were two weeks ago. 750 more yesterday. If this continues, No Turns graphs will show the uptick...all about how you scale the graph. This is official Johns Hopkins data. NT, click on the graphic and report back what you think.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jul 11, 2020 17:46:30 GMT -5
And this is your global view....
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Post by what is hip ? on Jul 11, 2020 18:18:31 GMT -5
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Post by wheelie on Jul 12, 2020 5:27:18 GMT -5
Perhaps uptick is due to late reporting. This guy analyzed. Looks like deaths from Late April and early May were just reported this week. Now why would they do that?? The numbers are FUCKED UP With comorbidity and some health and news officials “playing” with numbers I don’t believe we have an accurate count of how deadly this truly has been. Any one seen the numbers for seasonal flu deaths this year?
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Post by noturns on Jul 12, 2020 6:59:28 GMT -5
Same graph but notice the uptick...maybe I will do a bit of a piece on trend lines....yes, we are not at levels we were during peak death, but we are above the levels we were two weeks ago. 750 more yesterday. If this continues, No Turns graphs will show the uptick...all about how you scale the graph. This is official Johns Hopkins data. NT, click on the graphic and report back what you think. Hi MB, saw that same graph on the wordometer website. I agree, there is an uptick, but too early to tell if a new trend is starting. Have you seen this graph on Sweden? Quite a few articles out this weekend stating that Sweden could be at herd immunity. And we all know what they did during this pandemic. The quote below is from Karl at the Market Ticker web site. If this is correct, all we have done with our social distancing, shutdowns, and masks is delay the deaths. We could also be at herd immunity right now, and this pandemic would most likely be behind us. "Sweden has had 5,500 deaths. They have 10 million people in their population. That's a death rate from this bug of one in 1,800, with virtually all of them being old and co-morbid individuals. To put in percentage terms it's a rate of 0.06% in the population. Or, if you prefer, since we have about 330 million citizens, about 33 times that is 181,000 deaths in the US"
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Post by noturns on Jul 12, 2020 7:12:25 GMT -5
Perhaps uptick is due to late reporting. This guy analyzed. Looks like deaths from Late April and early May were just reported this week. Now why would they do that?? The numbers are FUCKED UP With comorbidity and some health and news officials “playing” with numbers I don’t believe we have an accurate count of how deadly this truly has been. Any one seen the numbers for seasonal flu deaths this year? Wheelie, totally agree. The only accurate number for comparison purposes is "All Cause Mortality", comparing previous years to this years data. All cause mortality death rates can not be manipulated; dead is dead. Good luck trying to find this data on line. If anyone has a link, please send. I did find one graph and it is a work in process.
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Post by what is hip ? on Jul 12, 2020 10:39:23 GMT -5
Perhaps uptick is due to late reporting. This guy analyzed. Looks like deaths from Late April and early May were just reported this week. Now why would they do that?? The numbers are FUCKED UP With comorbidity and some health and news officials “playing” with numbers I don’t believe we have an accurate count of how deadly this truly has been. Any one seen the numbers for seasonal flu deaths this year? An election year plus pandemic. Legacy Data Laundering - Fucked up numbers is right.
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Post by what is hip ? on Jul 12, 2020 10:47:32 GMT -5
good thread read
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Post by hawk on Jul 13, 2020 8:11:20 GMT -5
Something dawned on me this weekend. I have been told by a lot of people that this whole Pandemic thing is a political scam to get rid of the current administration. So all we need to do is just not reelect the current president and the virus and restrictions will go away and we can all go back to what we were doing. Correct or not?
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Post by wheelie on Jul 13, 2020 9:15:29 GMT -5
Something dawned on me this weekend. I have been told by a lot of people that this whole Pandemic thing is a political scam to get rid of the current administration. So all we need to do is just not reelect the current president and the virus and restrictions will go away and we can all go back to what we were doing. Correct or not? It’s not as simple as that for sure But it is certainly getting harder if DJT to get re-elected based on the economy with an economy in the crapper
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jul 13, 2020 10:52:41 GMT -5
So you think this Florida spike is made up? 15K new cases, death rates were 30 per day 3 weeks ago, now75 per day...testing is up from 25k per day to 50k per day but death rate as % is increasing as well.
Hawk, you really do not believe that do you? a world wide pandemic is a hoax to get rid of Trump? Seems to me there would be easier ways, such as not voting for him or as a democrat coming up with an actual plan vs just trashing everything DJT does or says..that is not a plan.
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Post by noturns on Jul 13, 2020 11:07:28 GMT -5
So you think this Florida spike is made up? 15K new cases, death rates were 30 per day 3 weeks ago, now75 per day...testing is up from 25k per day to 50k per day but death rate as % is increasing as well. Hawk, you really do not believe that do you? a world wide pandemic is a hoax to get rid of Trump? Seems to me there would be easier ways, such as not voting for him or as a democrat coming up with an actual plan vs just trashing everything DJT does or says..that is not a plan. Hi MB, Cases are the wrong metric IMO. I'm not buying the increase death rate in Florida due to corona virus. You could fall out of plane at 30;000 feet, splatter on the sidewalk and if you tested positive on the way to the morgue, your death would be classified as corona virus. Show me accurate all case mortality data compared to previous years.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jul 13, 2020 11:39:01 GMT -5
So you think this Florida spike is made up? 15K new cases, death rates were 30 per day 3 weeks ago, now75 per day...testing is up from 25k per day to 50k per day but death rate as % is increasing as well. Hawk, you really do not believe that do you? a world wide pandemic is a hoax to get rid of Trump? Seems to me there would be easier ways, such as not voting for him or as a democrat coming up with an actual plan vs just trashing everything DJT does or says..that is not a plan. Hi MB, Cases are the wrong metric IMO. I'm not buying the increase death rate in Florida due to corona virus. You could fall out of plane at 30;000 feet, splatter on the sidewalk and if you tested positive on the way to the morgue, your death would be classified as corona virus. Show me accurate all case mortality data compared to previous years. thats a bit extreme, the data is as best as the folks reporting....I think you know that.
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Post by hawk on Jul 13, 2020 12:30:00 GMT -5
So you think this Florida spike is made up? 15K new cases, death rates were 30 per day 3 weeks ago, now75 per day...testing is up from 25k per day to 50k per day but death rate as % is increasing as well. Hawk, you really do not believe that do you? a world wide pandemic is a hoax to get rid of Trump? Seems to me there would be easier ways, such as not voting for him or as a democrat coming up with an actual plan vs just trashing everything DJT does or says..that is not a plan. Of course not. I was just being sarcastic really. I just got a total earful this weekend from 2 of my brother in laws and a cousin. I'm just sick of the great divide with people casting stones and having no solutions. By the way I think President Trump is going to win because no one else can put any better offers or ideas up that would unite the country.
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Post by noturns on Jul 13, 2020 16:21:55 GMT -5
Hi MB, Cases are the wrong metric IMO. I'm not buying the increase death rate in Florida due to corona virus. You could fall out of plane at 30;000 feet, splatter on the sidewalk and if you tested positive on the way to the morgue, your death would be classified as corona virus. Show me accurate all case mortality data compared to previous years. thats a bit extreme, the data is as best as the folks reporting....I think you know that. Ok, maybe a bit extreme, but people are being classified as CV-19 deaths, when in fact, they died from some other issue. They just happened to be positive when they died. You know that the 15,000 new cases in Florida on Saturday 7/11 was based on a whopping 142,000 tests taken that day. That equates to 10.5% positives. This 10.5% represents a decrease from the previous week which ranged from 15% positives on Saturday 7/4 to 11.8% on Friday 7/10. Less people are testing positive as a % of tests.
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