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Post by Machski on Jan 4, 2021 9:51:03 GMT -5
Sorry, our sentiments are close, it's how we're dealing with them that is different. Nothing I can do will change DJT's behavior or that of his few, remaining loyalists. What I DO KNOW is that he doesn't have near enough left to put up any real challenge. So he can claw and scrape all he wants, he's on the way out in a few weeks time. There may be lasting issues that remain from all this, but only time will tell. As I said, we wont know how this affects things moving forward for some time, so let this noise play out, we'll all move on and in a year we can take stock of what if any lasting damage has been caused. Because none of us are in position to do anything about this. If there were a real chance some of this shit would work, I'd be more concerned. Since there isn't really a chance hell freezes over here, I'll let it ride and for now feel this will become a footnote in history. Well, I do see it differently. You, I think, are basically saying it doesn’t matter what Trump and his supporters do now because they have no shot at success. I am saying even if they no shot at success that it does matter what they are doing, and will likely have some long-lasting repercussions. If you won’t want to talk about and debate it and just let it play out then that’s fine, but the fact that you are reading and replying to this thread tells me that you do want to talk about and debate it. 😁 Well, hate to break it to you, but I see no point in debating anything he's doing right now. As I said, none of us can change it, we just have to live it through. If you would like to debate any lasting ramifications of his actions, we can do tht about this time next year when we have better clarity or whether there will be any or not and what to do moving forward from there.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 4, 2021 10:09:11 GMT -5
Well, I do see it differently. You, I think, are basically saying it doesn’t matter what Trump and his supporters do now because they have no shot at success. I am saying even if they no shot at success that it does matter what they are doing, and will likely have some long-lasting repercussions. If you won’t want to talk about and debate it and just let it play out then that’s fine, but the fact that you are reading and replying to this thread tells me that you do want to talk about and debate it. 😁 Well, hate to break it to you, but I see no point in debating anything he's doing right now. As I said, none of us can change it, we just have to live it through. If you would like to debate any lasting ramifications of his actions, we can do tht about this time next year when we have better clarity or whether there will be any or not and what to do moving forward from there. Yet here you are debating it.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 4, 2021 20:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 5, 2021 12:16:41 GMT -5
Agreed the results are completely false. I hope you watched President Trump last night .
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 5, 2021 13:30:53 GMT -5
Agreed the results are completely false. I hope you watched President Trump last night . I think you misread. 😉 Trump is completely out of touch with reality, last night proved that (again).
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 5, 2021 14:10:41 GMT -5
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 5, 2021 15:46:30 GMT -5
Agreed the results are completely false. I hope you watched President Trump last night . I think you misread. 😉 Trump is completely out of touch with reality, last night proved that (again). Didn't misread... can DEAD people vote? That seems out of reality? Attachments:
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 5, 2021 15:50:55 GMT -5
I think you misread. 😉 Trump is completely out of touch with reality, last night proved that (again). Didn't misread... can DEAD people vote? That seems out of reality? TRUMP: “The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted. And I think the number is in the — close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number. And a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.” THE FACTS: Not true. Georgia officials have debunked previous claims by the Trump campaign in November that three particular people had voted illegally, finding that other people with similar names had voted. At the time, a local district attorney announced an investigation into whether a ballot had illegally been cast in the name of a northwest Georgia man who died in 2015. On Saturday, Raffensperger said two illegal votes on behalf of dead people have been confirmed, not thousands as Trump alleged. “The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. And so that’s wrong,” Raffensperger said. apnews.com/article/ap-fact-check-donald-trump-georgia-elections-atlanta-c23d10e5299e14daee6109885f7dafa9
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 5, 2021 15:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 5, 2021 16:07:52 GMT -5
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Post by patroller on Jan 5, 2021 16:32:01 GMT -5
I watched the whole thing last night. Total BS, out of his fucking mind. Not sure he really helped his candidates, and he probably doesn't care either way..
The Georgia election official addressed the Dead People Voting theory at his Presser yesterday Those were all people very much alive who voted, w/ same name as someone who had recently passed.
Time to move on.
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 5, 2021 17:30:47 GMT -5
The voter fraud is clear and convincing, not "unproven". Every vote tabulated without an observer is a felony. Every ballot run through the machine more than once is a felony. Registering dead people to vote is a felony. Backdating ballots is a felony. Voting with no GA residence is a felony. Not verifying signatures on ballots is a felony. Tell us again how mail in ballots came back with no folds?? How did they mail them in envelopes with no folds? Why won't you audit the Dominion voting machines, all of them? Historically mail in ballots rejected at a rate of 3%, now down to .03%.
Net of the fraudulent votes, maybe Biden still wins but we will never know as the challenges (and witnesses) keep getting brushed under the rug. 60 million Americans will never consider Joe Biden to be a legitimately elected president. If you don't think that is a problem you have your head up your ass.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 5, 2021 17:52:38 GMT -5
Over 60 court cases and dozens of investigations is “swept under the rug”. Right. Trump the Liar in Chief has convinced lots of people of this bullshit and that will be his legacy. Sad.
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 5, 2021 17:56:24 GMT -5
Over 60 court cases and dozens of investigations is “swept under the rug”. Right. Trump the Liar in Chief has convinced lots of people of this bullshit and that will be his legacy. Sad. Do you think a proper investigation can be completed in a month? 60 million+ convinced......
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Post by wheelie on Jan 5, 2021 18:20:27 GMT -5
The voter fraud is clear and convincing, not "unproven". Every vote tabulated without an observer is a felony. Every ballot run through the machine more than once is a felony. Registering dead people to vote is a felony. Backdating ballots is a felony. Voting with no GA residence is a felony. Not verifying signatures on ballots is a felony. Tell us again how mail in ballots came back with no folds?? How did they mail them in envelopes with no folds? Why won't you audit the Dominion voting machines, all of them? Historically mail in ballots rejected at a rate of 3%, now down to .03%. Net of the fraudulent votes, maybe Biden still wins but we will never know as the challenges (and witnesses) keep getting brushed under the rug. 60 million Americans will never consider Joe Biden to be a legitimately elected president. If you don't think that is a problem you have your head up your ass. You saw where the guy who voted (and basically said he would again) for Trump said none of that happened?
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