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Post by Machski on Oct 25, 2020 13:46:52 GMT -5
Well, what they profess isn't held in high esteem in state, as exemplified by the fact the entire NH congressional delegation to DC is Dems. That doesn’t mean that the Union Leader isn’t conservative. True, it still is for the most part. It is also quite irrelevant politically today as well.
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Post by bob on Oct 25, 2020 14:38:12 GMT -5
And Barker, Comala had to ask an aide today to confirm she was in Cleveland.. meanwhile Trump did 3 rallies today and seemed highly energized at each - and appeared to know where he was at each of them.... Wisconsin one happening now. I don't follow the Trump rallies, but they often happen approx in the 3-6pm window... when I watch that leftist, my good friend, Neil Cavuto leading into the Five. It sux when DJT preempts the Five. I need my Juan Williams takes. I get the Trump haters. I don't get the folks that think this country will be run better with the ticket the Democrats have given the electorate. You want Sanders in charge of the Senate Committee on Healthcare? You want a "Blue Ribbon" commission to green light supreme court packing? You want Comala to be President within a year of inauguration day 2021? China Joe? Why didn't the Dem's embrace Tulsi? The party lets Hillary decide that Tulsi isn't worthy?.... In 2020 you still listen to HRC? Look in the mirror. The D party is seriously fucked up. The warmongers banded around Biden to sell the wars. Even the Republican warmonger in chief William "I never met a war I didn't like" Kristol is on the Biden bandwagon. A credible attractive female anti war veteran like Tulsi Gabbard was like light to their vampire eyes.
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Post by what is hip ? on Oct 25, 2020 16:58:30 GMT -5
And Barker, Comala had to ask an aide today to confirm she was in Cleveland.. meanwhile Trump did 3 rallies today and seemed highly energized at each - and appeared to know where he was at each of them.... Wisconsin one happening now. I don't follow the Trump rallies, but they often happen approx in the 3-6pm window... when I watch that leftist, my good friend, Neil Cavuto leading into the Five. It sux when DJT preempts the Five. I need my Juan Williams takes. I get the Trump haters. I don't get the folks that think this country will be run better with the ticket the Democrats have given the electorate. You want Sanders in charge of the Senate Committee on Healthcare? You want a "Blue Ribbon" commission to green light supreme court packing? You want Comala to be President within a year of inauguration day 2021? China Joe? Why didn't the Dem's embrace Tulsi? The party lets Hillary decide that Tulsi isn't worthy?.... In 2020 you still listen to HRC? Look in the mirror. The D party is seriously fucked up. The warmongers banded around Biden to sell the wars. Even the Republican warmonger in chief William "I never met a war I didn't like" Kristol is on the Biden bandwagon. A credible attractive female anti war veteran like Tulsi Gabbard was like light to their vampire eyes. plus a rigged D primary system.
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Post by what is hip ? on Oct 25, 2020 20:28:55 GMT -5
Barker, question for you....are you more a fan of Biden or a hater of Trump? Can I be both equally? One man inherited everything then made reckless decisions throughout his life that resulted in great losses. The other devoted a lifetime to public service and overcame personal tragedies along the way while working his way to the top. Two men are running; one is a terrible person and the other is a decent man. I already voted for the decent man. Yeah, what a guy. A moving eulogy for Byrd in 2010... and his pull out of the 1988 presidential race for stealing and plagiarizing. His yuk a minute questioning of Clarence Thomas in 1991. At least he has cleaned up his act now after 47 years of public service.. he only sniffs little girls hair now.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 26, 2020 7:12:53 GMT -5
so what about the stock market/finances...is anyone else worried about the hit if Biden wins?
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 26, 2020 7:20:49 GMT -5
worried about the stock market, tax increases, gas/heating fuel increases....
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 26, 2020 7:48:20 GMT -5
my biggest worry is not the dip that the markets will take but how long said dip will last...my dad (76 years old) is going to be fucked as it everyone else in his generation.
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Post by rippy on Oct 26, 2020 8:06:49 GMT -5
so what about the stock market/finances...is anyone else worried about the hit if Biden wins? If Biden wins, there will be a short term positive impact on the market in anticipation of a huge amount of fiscal stimulus then it will flatten out and be less volatile. With higher taxes, especially cap gains, there’s a risk of a market sell off. I’m sure there will be some cap gains harvesting but I’m not worried about Jeff Bezos liquidating his position in Amazon. Where else will people out their money ?? The financial markets hate uncertainty, so I think a predicable dialogue from Washington will mute the negative impacts of tax increases.
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Post by rippy on Oct 26, 2020 8:24:30 GMT -5
my biggest worry is not the dip that the markets will take but how long said dip will last...my dad (76 years old) is going to be fucked as it everyone else in his generation. Obviously, don’t know your father’s situation or what advice he’s got over the years, but hopefully he’s not all-in on equities and he’s hedged his bets. At least he’s got a rich kid to take care of him!!😉😃
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Post by hawk on Oct 26, 2020 8:29:22 GMT -5
my biggest worry is not the dip that the markets will take but how long said dip will last...my dad (76 years old) is going to be fucked as it everyone else in his generation. MB, if everyone is so worried then take your accounts and convert them to Federal bonds now. Like this week. Then your risk goes to zero. You may not make much but you will not loose any. Another question is why is your dad who is at 76, still invested in stocks that have any kind of risk? The Market is going to go down because it can only go up for so long. History tells us this but it will only be partially caused by the election. It will mostly be caused from the bankruptcies, loan defaults, unemployment, evictions and general bad business climate that the pandemic has caused across the entire globe. I am going to say this now because this is what we are going to hear from now on. This will not be anybody's political blunder. It is a pandemic. So when the blame game starts I am not listening to any of that bullshit. Also, no one can answer my question about what the republicans plan would be if they repealed the ACA and with details. Because promontory riders response of get a job is basically a non response.
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Post by sitzmark on Oct 26, 2020 8:41:54 GMT -5
so what about the stock market/finances...is anyone else worried about the hit if Biden wins? Market is on a knife's edge either way. Overvalued. 2-4 year horizon maybe looks better with Trump. 5-20 year horizon is not good regardless. Businesses return dividends when they are profitable and stock prices rise when PE is "reasonably" valued. 30x, 40x, 50x+ is very rich by historical measures that's where many stocks are. S&P is around 35. (far short of 100+ during 2008 crash, but still) Market doing well because $Trillions .... $$ TRILLIONS$$ ... have been pumped in from "covid stimulus". Without that we'd be in a world of hurt. Chance for more stimulus - Trump. Chance for MORE stimulus - Biden. Senate flip and Biden - stimulus, stimulus, stimulus. Good for market. For real economic health companies need a strong customer base with stable earnings potential. There's that word again - earnings. Concentration of wealth and shrinking middle class threatens the engine that built the US markets/economy. The long term debt that's been created because of stimulus and other spending will get worse ... without fiscal restraint and additional revenues (taxes) potentially MUCH worse. Bad, very bad for long term which impacts forward looking profitability/PE. Tax increases to pay off long term debt - bad short term, mixed bag for the long term depending on what people and business do. If the driving motivation is to stabilize the finances of the country, everyone takes a haircut. If the greater motivation is self-interest, the US is steering into a dark place. Trump isn't making the long term debt go away - not even when the economy was hitting its highest productivity. In fact debt was outpacing the economy and then some. The National Debt is the people's debt. Currently at around $80k for every US citizen ... approaching $200k for every household. The US can't afford for interest rates to increase or service on the debt will explode, so monetary policy is holding down interest rates. Retiring/retired people can't make livable return on their savings without taking greater risk than they should because of constraints on fixed income (treasuries). Massive funnel of assets to the Market is a result. Another reason for overvaluation. If markets crash or even significantly correct, those who have a short horizon are in trouble. That means reduced spending by a very large segment of the population. Depletion of Medicare and SS funds is imminent .. even more reduced spending. Translation - dynamic downward impact on the economy and business earnings (stock prices/dividends) unless new customers are found somewhere else. It isn't a rosy picture ... or a simple Trump/Biden answer.
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Post by rippy on Oct 26, 2020 8:47:57 GMT -5
my biggest worry is not the dip that the markets will take but how long said dip will last...my dad (76 years old) is going to be fucked as it everyone else in his generation. MB, if everyone is so worried then take your accounts and convert them to Federal bonds now. Like this week. Then your risk goes to zero. You may not make much but you will not loose any. Another question is why is your dad who is at 76, still invested in stocks that have any kind of risk? The Market is going to go down because it can only go up for so long. History tells us this but it will only be partially caused by the election. It will mostly be caused from the bankruptcies, loan defaults, unemployment, evictions and general bad business climate that the pandemic has caused across the entire globe. I am going to say this now because this is what we are going to hear from now on. This will not be anybody's political blunder. It is a pandemic. So when the blame game starts I am not listening to any of that bullshit. Also, no one can answer my question about what the republicans plan would be if they repealed the ACA and with details. Because promontory riders response of get a job is basically a non response. The stock market is not a sum-zero game and can continue to gain value over the long term. History tells us this !!
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Post by sitzmark on Oct 26, 2020 8:50:07 GMT -5
MB, if everyone is so worried then take your accounts and convert them to Federal bonds now. Like this week. Then your risk goes to zero. You may not make much but you will not loose any. Another question is why is your dad who is at 76, still invested in stocks that have any kind of risk? The Market is going to go down because it can only go up for so long. History tells us this but it will only be partially caused by the election. It will mostly be caused from the bankruptcies, loan defaults, unemployment, evictions and general bad business climate that the pandemic has caused across the entire globe. I am going to say this now because this is what we are going to hear from now on. This will not be anybody's political blunder. It is a pandemic. So when the blame game starts I am not listening to any of that bullshit. Also, no one can answer my question about what the republicans plan would be if they repealed the ACA and with details. Because promontory riders response of get a job is basically a non response. The stock market is not a sum-zero game and can continue to gain value over the long term. History tells us this !! Hope you are 25.
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Post by rippy on Oct 26, 2020 8:52:37 GMT -5
The stock market is not a sum-zero game and can continue to gain value over the long term. History tells us this !! Hope you are 25. Why?
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 26, 2020 8:53:48 GMT -5
my biggest worry is not the dip that the markets will take but how long said dip will last...my dad (76 years old) is going to be fucked as it everyone else in his generation. MB, if everyone is so worried then take your accounts and convert them to Federal bonds now. Like this week. Then your risk goes to zero. You may not make much but you will not loose any. Another question is why is your dad who is at 76, still invested in stocks that have any kind of risk? The Market is going to go down because it can only go up for so long. History tells us this but it will only be partially caused by the election. It will mostly be caused from the bankruptcies, loan defaults, unemployment, evictions and general bad business climate that the pandemic has caused across the entire globe. I am going to say this now because this is what we are going to hear from now on. This will not be anybody's political blunder. It is a pandemic. So when the blame game starts I am not listening to any of that bullshit. Also, no one can answer my question about what the republicans plan would be if they repealed the ACA and with details. Because promontory riders response of get a job is basically a non response. Of course it won't be if Joe wins the election. Now it's a pandemic? Basically no one's fault? There has been a lot of finger pointing up to this point. Lot of companies hiring out there.
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