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Post by ZenMaster on Oct 2, 2020 7:23:07 GMT -5
Contact tracing should be interesting. His chief of staff was in close physical proximity to Trump at/after the debate and has been all over capital hill escorting Barrett around.
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Post by flip on Oct 2, 2020 7:43:54 GMT -5
Contact tracing should be interesting. His chief of staff was in close physical proximity to Trump at/after the debate and has been all over capital hill escorting Barrett around. Yeah, contact tracing would definitely be one of the most interesting parts of the President of the United States having Covid.
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Post by Machski on Oct 2, 2020 9:02:18 GMT -5
So, the maskless in chief got the China Bug. Lovely.
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Post by ZenMaster on Oct 2, 2020 9:04:59 GMT -5
Contact tracing should be interesting. His chief of staff was in close physical proximity to Trump at/after the debate and has been all over capital hill escorting Barrett around. Yeah, contact tracing would definitely be one of the most interesting parts of the President of the United States having Covid. Given the potential for continuity of government issues in terms of line of succession, I think it is. The good news on that front is that VPOTUS has already tested negative.
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Post by Machski on Oct 2, 2020 9:20:41 GMT -5
Yeah, contact tracing would definitely be one of the most interesting parts of the President of the United States having Covid. Given the potential for continuity of government issues in terms of line of succession, I think it is. The good news on that front is that VPOTUS has already tested negative. For now......
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Post by bob on Oct 2, 2020 9:21:34 GMT -5
Health insurance costs have been rising 10%-20% annually since the late 1980's. Obamacare was conceived as an attempt to stop that, get full participation in insurance coverage for higher overall economic productivity (sick people are a drag on the economy), and spread risk across healthier (younger) demographics who were increasingly not buying insurance but using a loophole in the system to get care through emergency rooms. The problem of emergency room care was exploding because more and more people couldn't afford premiums. Hospitals were facing insolvency because there was nowhere to recover the cost of treating the uninsured. Legaly the uninsured could not be turned away from emergency room care because of the EMTALA law passed under the Reagan administration in 1986. The government enacted TEFRA/DRG's (Tax Equity Financial Responsibility Act/ Diagnostic Related Groups) in 1988 in an attempt to combat rising Medicare expense due to medicare patient payouts to the private healthcare sector. TEFRA grew out of a Yale study that looked at the average cost for the same procedures across the country and established a baseline for what the same procedure should cost adjusted for specific locale costs of doing business. Medicare would pay according to TEFRA/DRG. Medical providers were required to "accept assignment" for Medicare patients and not charge the the difference. Eventually that led to to private insurers calling foul in the 00's - because the uncovered cost not being covered by Medicare/Medicaid was being "cost-shifted" to patients with private coverage. Initially private insurers just kept passing those expenses along in higher premiums to employers and individuals. Fortune 500 companies like the two I worked for a that time - Corning Medical and Ciba Geigy - stopped purchasing policies for employees and began to self-insure for routine medical coverage and carry riders for catastrophic expense incurred by employees. Obviously that was having an impact on insurance company bottom lines. Then HMO's kicked in and, and, and... The system has been on a crash course for decades. The simple fix .... get rid of EMTALA and allow people to be kicked out if they can't pay or afford insurance. Done. Except for millions of uninsured people wandering the streets sick and dying. With the Medicare funding disaster pending and all other funding disasters and national deficits there is no fix that isn't going to make (10's of) millions of people's lives "challenging". Wow I never really scrutinized how much the employee's cost is and yes it seems the payroll deductions and deductibles for Health insurance have both been skyrocketing.
I just saw the figures on the Graph from the article showing average total cost went from over 13k in 2009 to over 20k a year in 2019.
But the Fed can't find inflation
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 2, 2020 10:28:29 GMT -5
Given the potential for continuity of government issues in terms of line of succession, I think it is. The good news on that front is that VPOTUS has already tested negative. For now...... CNN has Pelosi running the country by end of the weekend.....
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Post by ZenMaster on Oct 2, 2020 11:12:45 GMT -5
CNN has Pelosi running the country by end of the weekend..... If you say so, but she’s 2nd in line behind Pence so obviously a lot would need to happen before it went that far down (which would be a first).
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Post by Machski on Oct 2, 2020 11:47:46 GMT -5
Now a Republican Senator from Utah has tested positive. This will now bleed over to affect the Republican push to confirm the SCOTUS nominee.
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Post by rippy on Oct 2, 2020 11:48:31 GMT -5
Waiting for Colonel Zenny to post that Trump is faking infection with Covid 19 so he can miraculously recover in a couple of days and brag that "it's no big deal....I told you so".
C'mon Colonel...you should be all over this one !!
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Post by ZenMaster on Oct 2, 2020 11:49:41 GMT -5
It has been interesting this morning to read about about how repulsed Trump supporters are at the less than kind comments they are seeing surrounding DJT and Melania’s virus diagnosis. And I agree with being repulsed by the such comments, even with as much distaste I have for Trump.
What makes it interesting is that exactly 4 years ago today (can’t make this shit up) then Candidate Donald Trump mocked his opponent for her pneumonia diagnosis. And I’m sure he had plenty his supporters, who are repulsed today, mocking her right along with him.
Can we all agree that this disgusting behavior has no place in American politics?
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 2, 2020 11:51:29 GMT -5
It has been interesting this morning to read about about how repulsed Trump supporters are at the less than kind comments they are seeing surrounding DJT and Melania’s virus diagnosis. And I agree with being repulsed by the such comments, even with as much distaste I have for Trump. What makes it interesting is that exactly 4 years ago today (can’t make this shit up) then Candidate Donald Trump mocked his opponent for her pneumonia diagnosis. And I’m sure he had plenty his supporters, who are repulsed today, mocking her right along with him. Can we all agree that this disgusting behavior has no place in American politics? Did DJT know a the time of the mocking that Hillary had pneumonia? Or was he mocking her stamina / inability to keep up w his pace. And yes, I do think there is a major difference between the two.
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Post by Barker on Oct 2, 2020 11:54:18 GMT -5
Now a Republican Senator from Utah has tested positive. This will now bleed over to affect the Republican push to confirm the SCOTUS nominee. Sen. Mike Lee appears with Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett on Tuesday. Lee, a Republican from Utah who is on the Senate Judiciary Committee, tested positive for Covid 19 on Friday.
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 2, 2020 11:56:23 GMT -5
CNN has Pelosi running the country by end of the weekend..... If you say so, but she’s 2nd in line behind Pence so obviously a lot would need to happen before it went that far down (which would be a first). That was what was suggested....this article from Newsweek. Thanks for the Political Science lesson, but I don't see Nancy needing to come in off the bench. Why its even suggested is ridiculous. In the circumstance that Pence were also to become unable to fulfil the role, Pelosi as speaker of the House would be able to quit that position to then undertake it, under the scope of the Presidential Succession Act 1947.
www.newsweek.com/pence-pelosi-succession-line-president-trump-covid-1535847
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 2, 2020 12:00:13 GMT -5
If you say so, but she’s 2nd in line behind Pence so obviously a lot would need to happen before it went that far down (which would be a first). That was what was suggested....this article from Newsweek. Thanks for the Political Science lesson, but I don't see Nancy needing to come in off the bench. Why its even suggested is ridiculous. In the circumstance that Pence were also to become unable to fulfil the role, Pelosi as speaker of the House would be able to quit that position to then undertake it, under the scope of the Presidential Succession Act 1947.
www.newsweek.com/pence-pelosi-succession-line-president-trump-covid-1535847
Its not that unrealistic, if Trump/Pence God forbid were in serious condition and needed to be ventilated or worse....NP would have to be sworn in...given C19 and its ability to debilitate its probably as close to that as we could be....
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