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Post by MonkeyBrook on Sept 28, 2020 8:18:15 GMT -5
Wait, we are blaming Trump for accepting $1.5m for a speech? Why is that a bad thing? What about Obama and Clinton accepting millions to write books pro presidency? IMO that is far worse....and did either donate their salaries?
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 28, 2020 8:22:27 GMT -5
Wait, we are blaming Trump for accepting $1.5m for a speech? Why is that a bad thing? Try to keep up, and don’t be so defensive. wheelie is the one who called out “the other side” that line their pockets” with speech money. Just trying to show it isn’t exclusive to “the other side” or even to politicians.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Sept 28, 2020 8:38:17 GMT -5
no defensiveness here at all...just sharing that is cuts both ways. Zenny, you are doing your typical blame game and not being specific on the issues as well as avoiding direct questions to you....
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Post by Barker on Sept 28, 2020 9:01:15 GMT -5
Also note the NYT isn't saying anything about his charitable contributions. If it was a real low number or percentage, then they would be highlighting that. So the number must make Trump look good. He has at least been donating his $400K salary to charity every year in office. The NYT article does discuss charitable donations, noting most of his charitable giving was by way of deductions for conservation easements on his properties - "The Seven Springs conservation-easement deduction is one of four that Mr. Trump has claimed over the years. While his use of these deductions is widely known, his tax records show that they represent the lion’s share of his charitable giving — about $119.3 million of roughly $130 million in personal and corporate charitable contributions reported to the I.R.S." He has more than made up for any presidential salary donation in golf cart rentals to the secret service. They spent $179K on them this summer in NJ! Then add on rooms at full rack rates, plus meals at his properties.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Sept 28, 2020 9:17:26 GMT -5
Also note the NYT isn't saying anything about his charitable contributions. If it was a real low number or percentage, then they would be highlighting that. So the number must make Trump look good. He has at least been donating his $400K salary to charity every year in office. The NYT article does discuss charitable donations, noting most of his charitable giving was by way of deductions for conservation easements on his properties - "The Seven Springs conservation-easement deduction is one of four that Mr. Trump has claimed over the years. While his use of these deductions is widely known, his tax records show that they represent the lion’s share of his charitable giving — about $119.3 million of roughly $130 million in personal and corporate charitable contributions reported to the I.R.S." He has more than made up for any presidential salary donation in golf cart rentals to the secret service. They spent $179K on them this summer in NJ! Then add on rooms at full rack rates, plus meals at his properties. The Secret Service needs to stay somewhere, right? Is Trump charing them more than other resorts/hotels would charge? If not, what is the issue?
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Post by wheelie on Sept 28, 2020 9:17:43 GMT -5
Wait, we are blaming Trump for accepting $1.5m for a speech? Why is that a bad thing? Try to keep up, and don’t be so defensive. wheelie is the one who called out “the other side” that line their pockets” with speech money. Just trying to show it isn’t exclusive to “the other side” or even to politicians. Maybe you didn’t see my follow up,it’s at the bottom of the last page. Speech money is not evil. The point is DJT and his enterprises has created jobs and stimulate other people’s economy. Speech giving only stimulates the speech givers economy. Dumb it down for you. DJT has actually created jobs, Biden/Harris have not.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Sept 28, 2020 9:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by Machski on Sept 28, 2020 9:30:31 GMT -5
If The NY Times is even close, then Trump should be behind bars for tax evasion. I pay more income tax than this supposed billionaire does. It paints a fascinating picture, though not unsurprising. No wonder he didn’t want to release them himself and has fought so hard to avoid even this most basic level of transparency. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.htmlWhen will the NYT be publishing the great Lefty Warren Buffet's taxes. He is on record saying he pays less in income taxes than his executive assistant/secretary. So I'm not seeing a huge difference here.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 28, 2020 10:03:37 GMT -5
If The NY Times is even close, then Trump should be behind bars for tax evasion. I pay more income tax than this supposed billionaire does. It paints a fascinating picture, though not unsurprising. No wonder he didn’t want to release them himself and has fought so hard to avoid even this most basic level of transparency. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.htmlWhen will the NYT be publishing the great Lefty Warren Buffet's taxes. He is on record saying he pays less in income taxes than his executive assistant/secretary. So I'm not seeing a huge difference here. If he runs for POTUS, I bet he would.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 28, 2020 10:06:14 GMT -5
Dumb it down for you. DJT has actually created jobs, Biden/Harris have not. Love all the backpedaling. And this not exactly true, but not worth going down the rabbit hole with you yet again, at least until it is about something more interesting.
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Post by wheelie on Sept 28, 2020 10:19:06 GMT -5
Dumb it down for you. DJT has actually created jobs, Biden/Harris have not. Love all the backpedaling. And this not exactly true, but not worth going down the rabbit hole with you yet again, at least until it is about something more interesting. That’s your standard answer when you have no response Where did I back peddle? We were talking about taxes and how people have earned their Money, the basis of your taxes. DJT earns it many different ways and “some” of those ways stimulate other peoples economy. Biden and Harris have not created anything but their own bank accounts.
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Post by rippy on Sept 28, 2020 10:26:41 GMT -5
You’re the dumbest f*ck in here. Have you ever seen a tax return for a real estate developer? Do you have any idea how many incentives the IRS code has for real estate developers? Answer: NO but that doesn’t stop you from posting more bullshit that that you don’t know anything about. None of these guys pay any taxes. In fact Trump probably has the cleanest returns in America. If there was anything significantly wrong with them, do you really think the Obama administration wouldn’t have leaked it before the 2016 election? Dummy !! How do we even know that the NYT isn't just making this up? Don't you think if they actually had a Trump tax return with his signature at the bottom of it, it would have been published? Until that happens, I'm a skeptic and this could all just be made up crap. Very true. People like Colonel Zenny that are absolutely apoplectic about Trump's tax returns would be very disappointed if they actually saw them. They falsely think that they'll get all kinds of insights into his financial status, as well as any fraudulent transactions. The fact is a tax return gives you almost no insight into either. Tax losses are merely calculations based on IRS regulations. They don't bear any resemblance to economics or real financial results. They also won't see a line item called "Payment to Putin". This is all a political bullshit....where has the NYT been on this for 4 years??
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Post by rippy on Sept 28, 2020 10:29:15 GMT -5
When will the NYT be publishing the great Lefty Warren Buffet's taxes. He is on record saying he pays less in income taxes than his executive assistant/secretary. So I'm not seeing a huge difference here. If he runs for POTUS, I bet he would. Pop quiz.....do you know why Buffet pay so little taxes?
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 28, 2020 10:31:26 GMT -5
That’s your standard answer when you have no response That’s BS and you know it.
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Post by wheelie on Sept 28, 2020 10:41:41 GMT -5
That’s your standard answer when you have no response That’s BS and you know it. It’s not BS and you know it, we are now even on that one. Let’s get back to the discussion about who is better suited to be POTUS. What do JB and KH know about creating jobs compared to DJT? Maybe you could actually give answers and not just keep saying “orange man bad” over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
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