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Post by Machski on Sept 19, 2020 8:30:45 GMT -5
And it took less than an hour for McConnell to show his hypocrisy. The fact that he will absolutely insist on trying to fill this seat in less than 47 days, just like he is filling dozens of federal judge positions he REFUSED to allow Obama to fill over 8 years of obstruction, is the utter theft of our republic. www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-supreme-court-nominee-vote-floorBoth sides have done this, I fully expect the Democrats in Senate to use every delay/stall tactic they have. Not sure it's a theft if both sides at this game, just Mitch looks worse for it, especially for how long he dragged 2016 for to delay vs trying to slam this through in 2 months time.
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Post by poe on Sept 19, 2020 8:43:02 GMT -5
After trying to overturn an election *in an election year* with BS, the Democrats shouldn't be complaining, but of course they will.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Sept 19, 2020 9:51:46 GMT -5
both sides do the same shit, no one should be surprised at all on MM comments...lets not forget, as pointed out, the Democrats wasted an entire year trying to get DJT out of office.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 19, 2020 12:28:04 GMT -5
The “they all do it” excuse is a lazy ass cop out. But not surprising.
And what does the impeachment of Trump have to do with fast tracking a SCOTUS justice for purely political reasons? I’ll tell you what: NOTHING. Talk about apples and dump trucks.
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Post by wheelie on Sept 19, 2020 12:56:46 GMT -5
The “they all do it” excuse is a lazy ass cop out. But not surprising. And what does the impeachment of Trump have to do with fast tracking a SCOTUS justice for purely political reasons? I’ll tell you what: NOTHING. Talk about apples and dump trucks. One question: How did you feel when the shoe was on the other foot when The Dems tried this?
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Post by Machski on Sept 19, 2020 13:21:18 GMT -5
The “they all do it” excuse is a lazy ass cop out. But not surprising. And what does the impeachment of Trump have to do with fast tracking a SCOTUS justice for purely political reasons? I’ll tell you what: NOTHING. Talk about apples and dump trucks. Ummm, both are political games. I'd say that makes them similar if not the same type of fruit. Mind you the entire impeachment dragged into the start of Covid, possibly adding a bit to the chaos of how Covid was handled. And if you say that's a lazy excuse, sorry but no it isn't.
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Post by dickc49 on Sept 19, 2020 14:29:45 GMT -5
And it took less than an hour for McConnell to show his hypocrisy. The fact that he will absolutely insist on trying to fill this seat in less than 47 days, just like he is filling dozens of federal judge positions he REFUSED to allow Obama to fill over 8 years of obstruction, is the utter theft of our republic. www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-supreme-court-nominee-vote-floor"Elections have consequences" Which famous politician gave us that line.........?
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 19, 2020 14:46:59 GMT -5
And it took less than an hour for McConnell to show his hypocrisy. The fact that he will absolutely insist on trying to fill this seat in less than 47 days, just like he is filling dozens of federal judge positions he REFUSED to allow Obama to fill over 8 years of obstruction, is the utter theft of our republic. www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-supreme-court-nominee-vote-floor"Elections have consequences" Which famous politician gave us that line.........? I think that was the point Moscow Mitch was trying to make when he refused to even hold hearings or a vote on Garland in 2016, with 8+ months to go before the last election. We are only 46 days out from the next one. Will be interesting to see where Collins comes down in this given the right race she is in. She probably won’t commit until she knows whether or not it will matter.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 19, 2020 14:50:07 GMT -5
The “they all do it” excuse is a lazy ass cop out. But not surprising. And what does the impeachment of Trump have to do with fast tracking a SCOTUS justice for purely political reasons? I’ll tell you what: NOTHING. Talk about apples and dump trucks. Ummm, both are political games. I'd say that makes them similar if not the same type of fruit. Mind you the entire impeachment dragged into the start of Covid, possibly adding a bit to the chaos of how Covid was handled. And if you say that's a lazy excuse, sorry but no it isn't. Agree to disagree. Not even in the same ballpark.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 19, 2020 14:50:31 GMT -5
The “they all do it” excuse is a lazy ass cop out. But not surprising. And what does the impeachment of Trump have to do with fast tracking a SCOTUS justice for purely political reasons? I’ll tell you what: NOTHING. Talk about apples and dump trucks. One question: How did you feel when the shoe was on the other foot when The Dems tried this? Be more specific please.
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Post by what is hip ? on Sept 19, 2020 14:58:34 GMT -5
One question: How did you feel when the shoe was on the other foot when The Dems tried this? Be more specific please. Schumer 2007 H. Reid 2013
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Post by wheelie on Sept 19, 2020 15:40:31 GMT -5
Ummm, both are political games. I'd say that makes them similar if not the same type of fruit. Mind you the entire impeachment dragged into the start of Covid, possibly adding a bit to the chaos of how Covid was handled. And if you say that's a lazy excuse, sorry but no it isn't. Agree to disagree. Not even in the same ballpark. Agree with Mach
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Post by dickc49 on Sept 19, 2020 16:27:31 GMT -5
"Elections have consequences" Which famous politician gave us that line.........? I think that was the point Moscow Mitch was trying to make when he refused to even hold hearings or a vote on Garland in 2016, with 8+ months to go before the last election. We are only 46 days out from the next one. Will be interesting to see where Collins comes down in this given the right race she is in. She probably won’t commit until she knows whether or not it will matter. Its quite possible that the discussions about the next Justice will take place before the election, but the actual vote after, so the impact on Collins may not be that significant.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 19, 2020 18:49:04 GMT -5
Schumer 2007 H. Reid 2013
Schumer said the same thing in 2007 that he is saying now.
As for Reid, I never liked him and the nuclear option was a mistake.
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Post by ZenMaster on Sept 19, 2020 18:50:53 GMT -5
Haven’t fact checked these but they sound about right...
2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
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