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Post by promontoryrider on Aug 4, 2020 7:05:08 GMT -5
Agreed Joe is a huge liar, kept him in politics for 50 years and has amassed him a lot wealth. Thanks for proving my point, prider.
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Post by hawk on Aug 4, 2020 7:15:05 GMT -5
Dont all politicians lie all the time? Ding, Ding, Ding!!! We have a winner! Most rational thing on here in months. It amazes me that very few people have a broader sense of that is happening in our country. It's not one side is bad or the other. It's the system in general and the finger pointing and wagging needs to stop. There are very smart people on here and all around that are staying things that astound me. They make no sense. Whatever. This is what we have for now.
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Post by ZenMaster on Aug 4, 2020 7:22:00 GMT -5
Agreed Joe is a huge liar, kept him in politics for 50 years and has amassed him a lot wealth. Thanks for proving my point, prider. Ha ha, wasn’t the point I was making (and for the record never said Joe or any other politician doesn’t lie, it’s a human trait after all) but whatever, rock on (love your avatar).
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Aug 4, 2020 10:01:48 GMT -5
Zenny, we know you are anti Trump...Jesus you have proved that with 1000 posts. Can you please now address if you are a fan of Biden....lets play a game pretend you hate Biden...what would you say about his politics? You cant be that sold on this guy as much as you hate Trump....or can you?
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Post by hawk on Aug 4, 2020 11:50:22 GMT -5
I think Joe Biden with a really strong running mate and carefully chosen cabinet of advisers is better than President Trump. Joe Biden with some unknown female running mate is not going to win and depending on who he chooses could be very bad. Looking more and more like a bad election year. Also I still don't see how President Trump, a rich real estate developer with no economic or geo-political background or experience is going to boost up our middle class or the poor. It hasn't happened yet and with the ongoing pandemic, doesn't look good for the future either. We need a complete change from the status quo.
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Post by oldtimer on Aug 4, 2020 11:51:03 GMT -5
Read Biden's book, "Promise Me, Dad" about the death of his son Beau. Then compare Biden to Trump as a human being and tell me who you would rather have representing the people of our country. Some things transcend politics.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 12:07:06 GMT -5
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Post by promontoryrider on Aug 4, 2020 12:11:29 GMT -5
Biden legacy in one word Burisma.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 12:24:48 GMT -5
Biden legacy in one word Burisma. Chasing that false narrative is what led to Trump’s legacy: impeached
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Post by hawk on Aug 4, 2020 12:37:31 GMT -5
Read Biden's book, "Promise Me, Dad" about the death of his son Beau. Then compare Biden to Trump as a human being and tell me who you would rather have representing the people of our country. Some things transcend politics. I haven't read the book. Give a readers digest of what he said that was so bad. I don't have time to read it now.
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Post by hawk on Aug 4, 2020 12:42:08 GMT -5
Biden legacy in one word Burisma. I don't think that is his legacy. That story has not stuck for most people. Again I believe he is not the best candidate for our time. But I think comparing what he might become in the future with the sitting president is speculative at best. If he ever musters up enough support to win then we can talk.
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Post by levy24 on Aug 4, 2020 12:52:50 GMT -5
I think Joe Biden with a really strong running mate and carefully chosen cabinet of advisers is better than President Trump. Joe Biden with some unknown female running mate is not going to win and depending on who he chooses could be very bad. Looking more and more like a bad election year. Also I still don't see how President Trump, a rich real estate developer with no economic or geo-political background or experience is going to boost up our middle class or the poor. It hasn't happened yet and with the ongoing pandemic, doesn't look good for the future either. We need a complete change from the status quo. Understatement of the year!
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Post by promontoryrider on Aug 4, 2020 13:16:35 GMT -5
Honest question - who would have been a better candidate? This was all the Democratic Party could come up with? I have to think there is someone better out there (even more than one). Biden legacy in one word Burisma. I don't think that is his legacy. That story has not stuck for most people. Again I believe he is not the best candidate for our time. But I think comparing what he might become in the future with the sitting president is speculative at best. If he ever musters up enough support to win then we can talk.
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Post by ZenMaster on Aug 4, 2020 13:22:49 GMT -5
This was all the Democratic Party could come up with? I have to think there is someone better out there (even more than one). Same can said about the GOP nominating Trump in 2016. If Romney had run against Hillary rather than an incumbent Obama I don’t think it would have been close (I know he didn’t run in 2016, 2012 pretty much finished him as a POTUS candidate). But then again Trump won so I guess they made the right choice for the party (wasn’t the right choice for the country though, IMO). Personally I think the dems shot themselves in the foot (again) this time around by splitting support early on among 20 candidates.
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Post by CartMan on Aug 4, 2020 13:26:05 GMT -5
The current system doesn't work . Ranked Choice Voting is likely the only way to get better candidates.
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