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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 13, 2021 16:03:00 GMT -5
Sorry bob, not true. But it does provide the “we’re the real victim” rhetoric, however misguided, for the red hats to rally around.
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Post by patroller on Jan 13, 2021 16:38:36 GMT -5
232 to Impeach 197 Nay's
Congrat's DJT you are the First President to be Impeached TWICE
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 13, 2021 16:40:36 GMT -5
232 to Impeach 197 Nay's Congrat's DJT you are the First President to be Impeached TWICE Yes, and while the 10 GOP yay votes might not sound like much, in the 3 previous impeachments no more than 5 reps crossed party lines so it is historic from that perspective as well.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 13, 2021 16:43:15 GMT -5
Only one of these presidents was impeached...now twice! Wonder if Susan Collins still thinks he learned his lesson, lol
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 13, 2021 16:54:29 GMT -5
Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before Trump leaves office - Still your President Colonel Zenny
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Post by garcia on Jan 13, 2021 16:58:08 GMT -5
Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before Trump leaves office - Still your President Colonel Zenny Regardless he won't be able to run again and loses his pension about $200,000 a year! Loser gets what he deserves
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 13, 2021 17:02:49 GMT -5
Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before Trump leaves office - Still your President Colonel Zenny Regardless he won't be able to run again and loses his pension about $200,000 a year! Loser gets what he deserves Fact check: No, impeachment itself would not ban Trump from a 2024 presidential run. 1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life 2) loses his 1 million dollar/year travel allowance 3) loses lifetime full secret service detail 4) loses his ability to run in 2024" Facts First: 1) Trump would lose his post-presidency pension only if both the House voted to impeach him and then the Senate voted to remove him from office; impeachment itself, without removal, would not result in Trump being denied any benefits. 2) The law makes clear that presidents who have lifetime Secret Service protection never get a $1 million travel allowance. 3) It is unclear that Trump would lose lifetime Secret Service protection even if the Senate voted to remove him and prohibit him from running. 4) Even a Senate vote to remove Trump would not prohibit him from running in 2024; for the Senate to ban him from the presidency, it would have to hold an additional vote on this question.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 13, 2021 17:18:35 GMT -5
Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before Trump leaves office My guess is that a trial and vote won’t happen for 107 or so days, after more hideous evidence of sedition emerges (what’s this I’m hearing about GOP congressmen collaborating with them?!) and Mitch can get the old guard to forbid DT to ever run again (will take all the Ds and Is and 17 Rs to vote to convict). In fact Mitch pretty much said as much, punting it to Schumer. Not the same urgency as a SCOTUS nominee.
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 13, 2021 17:32:46 GMT -5
Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before Trump leaves office My guess is that a trial and vote won’t happen for 107 or so days, after more hideous evidence of sedition emerges (what’s this I’m hearing about GOP congressmen collaborating with them?!) and Mitch can get the old guard to forbid DT to ever run again (will take all the Ds and Is and 17 Rs to vote to convict). In fact Mitch pretty much said as much, punting it to Schumer. Not the same urgency as a SCOTUS nominee. Unconstitutional but we'll see.
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Post by poe on Jan 13, 2021 17:34:00 GMT -5
Again, no it does not mean that. And poe don’t be ridiculous, no one is talking about food preferences. Comparing everything to what a Nazi would think is ridiculous.
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Post by poe on Jan 13, 2021 17:38:15 GMT -5
They should have impeached Pelosi then when she labeled Republicans as "Enemies of the State". That's very incendiary since being an enemy of the state can justify all kinds of violence. And Maxine Waters when she called for PHYSICAL action against Trump supporters.
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Post by Barker on Jan 13, 2021 17:40:40 GMT -5
Regardless he won't be able to run again and loses his pension about $200,000 a year! Loser gets what he deserves Fact check: No, impeachment itself would not ban Trump from a 2024 presidential run. 1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life 2) loses his 1 million dollar/year travel allowance 3) loses lifetime full secret service detail 4) loses his ability to run in 2024" Facts First: 1) Trump would lose his post-presidency pension only if both the House voted to impeach him and then the Senate voted to remove him from office; impeachment itself, without removal, would not result in Trump being denied any benefits. 2) The law makes clear that presidents who have lifetime Secret Service protection never get a $1 million travel allowance. 3) It is unclear that Trump would lose lifetime Secret Service protection even if the Senate voted to remove him and prohibit him from running. 4) Even a Senate vote to remove Trump would not prohibit him from running in 2024; for the Senate to ban him from the presidency, it would have to hold an additional vote on this question. For #4 Check 14th Amendment article 3 This iimpeachment was written in such a way as to prevent him from holding any office again. “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.“
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Post by wheelie on Jan 13, 2021 17:48:43 GMT -5
Fact check: No, impeachment itself would not ban Trump from a 2024 presidential run. 1) loses his 200k+ pension for the rest of his life 2) loses his 1 million dollar/year travel allowance 3) loses lifetime full secret service detail 4) loses his ability to run in 2024" Facts First: 1) Trump would lose his post-presidency pension only if both the House voted to impeach him and then the Senate voted to remove him from office; impeachment itself, without removal, would not result in Trump being denied any benefits. 2) The law makes clear that presidents who have lifetime Secret Service protection never get a $1 million travel allowance. 3) It is unclear that Trump would lose lifetime Secret Service protection even if the Senate voted to remove him and prohibit him from running. 4) Even a Senate vote to remove Trump would not prohibit him from running in 2024; for the Senate to ban him from the presidency, it would have to hold an additional vote on this question. For #4 Check 14th Amendment article 3 This iimpeachment was written in such a way as to prevent him from holding any office again. “No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.“ That is my understanding
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Post by patroller on Jan 13, 2021 17:52:33 GMT -5
Senate won’t reconvene early to start impeachment trial before Trump leaves office The 2nd Senate vote is a simple majority. Guaranteed, DJT will never be able to run for elected office again. Regardless he'll be a lil tied up w/ multiple SDNY lawsuits over the next few years.
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 13, 2021 17:59:03 GMT -5
The 2nd Senate vote is a simple majority. Guaranteed, DJT will never be able to run for elected office again. Regardless he'll be a lil tied up w/ multiple SDNY lawsuits over the next few years. 2/3's to prevent holding office again I believe.
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