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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 6, 2021 9:29:21 GMT -5
Going to see if I can get you to post 50x today. Will check in later, keep up the great work. You’re making a real difference. Great job. 😂
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Post by hawk on Jan 6, 2021 9:37:31 GMT -5
Time to move on here. In 4 years the republicans can vote President Biden out if they can. This whole election fraud thing is certainly overblown and I think it is not nearly as big as the President Trump allies are saying. There is no way that they will ever find enough votes to overturn the election so it is pragmatic to move on. The Damage to the democracy on this election cycle will never be repaired and I will put most of the blame on the spineless Republican politicians that would not stand up to a leader that was at best unbecoming of the office he held.
I hope that there are 2 new candidates for President in the next election so we can get a fresh start. People who I can vote for with a clear conscience. For all of you that think the current president was a good choice for this country, I will never understand. There is just no way on so many levels. But that is your choice and no one can take that away.
History will tell.
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Post by Machski on Jan 6, 2021 10:11:49 GMT -5
Keep going Zenny, you are making a real difference.....great job. He is, he's fast on the way to bringing the ad banners back by midmonth with his volumous postings here
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Post by Machski on Jan 6, 2021 10:16:50 GMT -5
Time to move on here. In 4 years the republicans can vote President Biden out if they can. This whole election fraud thing is certainly overblown and I think it is not nearly as big as the President Trump allies are saying. There is no way that they will ever find enough votes to overturn the election so it is pragmatic to move on. The Damage to the democracy on this election cycle will never be repaired and I will put most of the blame on the spineless Republican politicians that would not stand up to a leader that was at best unbecoming of the office he held. I hope that there are 2 new candidates for President in the next election so we can get a fresh start. People who I can vote for with a clear conscience. For all of you that think the current president was a good choice for this country, I will never understand. There is just no way on so many levels. But that is your choice and no one can take that away. History will tell. Hawk, The Republican party is on a tipping point today, they are likely to lose the Senate today as well. This will need to be a complete rebuild of that party if they are to weild any significant political power again at the federal level. The party is broken and likely to get worse if DJT is still around in 4 years.
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Post by wheelie on Jan 6, 2021 10:21:39 GMT -5
So what? That many people also believed there was fraud in Florida in 2000 Did you take their claims this seriously? Comparing apples to oranges but whatever it takes to make you happy..... Call it what you want but the question remains: Do you care that a large number of Democrats claimed Jeb Bush fixed Fla for his brother or where you like most republicans who said they were just being sore losers? BTW: the union is still here 20years later and I suspect it will survive this “atrocity” as well.
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 6, 2021 11:35:52 GMT -5
Comparing apples to oranges but whatever it takes to make you happy..... Call it what you want but the question remains: Do you care that a large number of Democrats claimed Jeb Bush fixed Fla for his brother or where you like most republicans who said they were just being sore losers? BTW: the union is still here 20years later and I suspect it will survive this “atrocity” as well. What happened in 2000 is totally irrelevant to what is happening today - were voting laws unconstitutionally amended in 2000? Were millions of unsolicited mail-in ballots distributed? The list goes on..... I agree the UNION will survive but it will be a rough ride. Buckle up!!
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Post by wheelie on Jan 6, 2021 11:40:08 GMT -5
Call it what you want but the question remains: Do you care that a large number of Democrats claimed Jeb Bush fixed Fla for his brother or where you like most republicans who said they were just being sore losers? BTW: the union is still here 20years later and I suspect it will survive this “atrocity” as well. What happened in 2000 is totally irrelevant to what is happening today - were voting laws unconstitutionally amended in 2000? Were millions of unsolicited mail-in ballots distributed? The list goes on..... I agree the UNION will survive but it will be a rough ride. Buckle up!! If you didn’t care then, dont expect people to care now is all. So yes, to your point, the people who are concerned with voter fraud this year are an irrelevant cult. Might as well be flat earthers.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 6, 2021 12:21:39 GMT -5
Looking more and more like it’s going to be Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, for the next few years at least. And the Fascist in Chief probably caused it with his whining and carrying on about Georgia which suppressed his base and sent others to the polls.
The show starts in Congress in about a half hour, grab your popcorn!
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Post by promontoryrider on Jan 6, 2021 12:51:04 GMT -5
What happened in 2000 is totally irrelevant to what is happening today - were voting laws unconstitutionally amended in 2000? Were millions of unsolicited mail-in ballots distributed? The list goes on..... I agree the UNION will survive but it will be a rough ride. Buckle up!! If you didn’t care then, dont expect people to care now is all. So yes, to your point, the people who are concerned with voter fraud this year are an irrelevant cult. Might as well be flat earthers. Never said I didn't care then - your words not mine. What I stated is what happened 20 years ago was totally different than what happened 2 months ago and what is happening today in DC. You are still sore about Gore losing? You keep going back to FLA '20. At least you are loyal to your party (for now).
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Post by wheelie on Jan 6, 2021 13:33:25 GMT -5
If you didn’t care then, dont expect people to care now is all. So yes, to your point, the people who are concerned with voter fraud this year are an irrelevant cult. Might as well be flat earthers. Never said I didn't care then - your words not mine. What I stated is what happened 20 years ago was totally different than what happened 2 months ago and what is happening today in DC. You are still sore about Gore losing? You keep going back to FLA '20. At least you are loyal to your party (for now). Didn’t vote for him As I stated before I realized 25 years ago my presidential vote don’t mean squat and have voted third party or write in ever since. I didn’t say you didn’t care. I said “if you didn’t care then” you can understand why most people don’t care now.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 6, 2021 13:37:53 GMT -5
Meanwhile McConnell is actually talking sense right now.
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Post by Machski on Jan 6, 2021 14:09:43 GMT -5
Meanwhile McConnell is actually talking sense right now. He's on the way out as Majority leader, and he wants to protect the institution in his final act as such. As far as I'm concerned, this splits the Republican party down a wide, deep divide. And Pence is standing up to his boss finally as well, refusing to wade into this debate as DJT demanded.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 6, 2021 14:25:13 GMT -5
Protesters have breached the building and the senate had to stop mid sentence to evacuate. And apparently a bomb scare in the rotunda. Chaos in DC, 6pm curfew issued. We look like a banana republic and it is all Trump’s fault, he fanned these flames. They were chanting “Civil War” when he was on stage for crying out loud.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 6, 2021 14:52:38 GMT -5
And now an armed standoff at the House doors. WTF?! Trump doing nothing to even try to stop it. This is only going to get uglier. Such a shame, should never have happened. This is as close to a coup attempt as this country has ever seen. Pence should be invoking the 25th right now. They are bringing in confederate flags into the US Capital. Unreal.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jan 6, 2021 15:08:03 GMT -5
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