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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 15, 2020 16:55:28 GMT -5
Oh, Trump has his own issues. I can believe we cant find a 45 year old man/woman who isn't crazy/do nothing/criminal/criminal family to be President We did in 2008. And before that GWB was 54 in 2000 and WJC was 46 in 1992. So it can be done.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 15, 2020 17:15:03 GMT -5
Oh, Trump has his own issues. I can believe we cant find a 45 year old man/woman who isn't crazy/do nothing/criminal/criminal family to be President We did in 2008. And before that GWB was 54 in 2000 and WJC was 46 in 1992. So it can be done. I voted for both....I was forced into voting for old guys these last two times
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Post by hawk on Dec 16, 2020 8:25:40 GMT -5
What are you trying to bait Zenny? I didn't think it was a bad speech. No stumbles. No forgetting names. I think it was more to provoke the President after his electoral college win. I thought he looked very weak, lots of coughing (into his hand of course), frog in his throat. Trump sounded better when he had COVID. He didn't say much of anything, but he had to say something he won (insert cough) the Electoral College. He definitely tried to provoke the PRESIDENT and please his sheep, then at the end Jill came out to lead him away. Looked pretty feeble to me, like a weak old man who didn't know where he was going, tried to go right, and she pulled him left holding his hand he just coughed into a dozen times. I wish he talked about Hunter. Where is Hunter? It's funny. People(Mostly Conservative leaning) talk about the fact that liberal leaning people hate the president and take every opportunity to talk down about him. But I am observing that it is going to be just as bad with our new President. Old, feeble, Hunter, coughing. If that is what we are already about then it is going to be a rough ride. Joe Biden is not even in office and has not done any governing from the office he has won. I will not judge a man for things he has not done yet. But I will judge him on his performance. I will also give him the same respect that I gave President Trump. If you noticed I have never called him by anything else but the President or the current administration. He earned it. I do not agree with some of his governing. I do not believe some of the spins that conservatives are saying about his decisions. That is my right. But he did what he did and time will tell if his governing was fair, honest and effective. Now it is time to move forward and people have to give this new administration the respect it deserves. I gave president Trump the benefit of the doubt even thought I did not vote for him. It's time for you guys to do the same. In less you are not really part of this American democracy. It is simple as that. Give him a chance. That is what I did the last 4 years.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Dec 16, 2020 8:36:06 GMT -5
I like the new kinder gentler Hawk.....
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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 16, 2020 8:42:57 GMT -5
I like the new kinder gentler Hawk..... 😁😂
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 16, 2020 12:51:17 GMT -5
I thought he looked very weak, lots of coughing (into his hand of course), frog in his throat. Trump sounded better when he had COVID. He didn't say much of anything, but he had to say something he won (insert cough) the Electoral College. He definitely tried to provoke the PRESIDENT and please his sheep, then at the end Jill came out to lead him away. Looked pretty feeble to me, like a weak old man who didn't know where he was going, tried to go right, and she pulled him left holding his hand he just coughed into a dozen times. I wish he talked about Hunter. Where is Hunter? It's funny. People(Mostly Conservative leaning) talk about the fact that liberal leaning people hate the president and take every opportunity to talk down about him. But I am observing that it is going to be just as bad with our new President. Old, feeble, Hunter, coughing. If that is what we are already about then it is going to be a rough ride. Joe Biden is not even in office and has not done any governing from the office he has won. I will not judge a man for things he has not done yet. But I will judge him on his performance. I will also give him the same respect that I gave President Trump. If you noticed I have never called him by anything else but the President or the current administration. He earned it. I do not agree with some of his governing. I do not believe some of the spins that conservatives are saying about his decisions. That is my right. But he did what he did and time will tell if his governing was fair, honest and effective. Now it is time to move forward and people have to give this new administration the respect it deserves. I gave president Trump the benefit of the doubt even thought I did not vote for him. It's time for you guys to do the same. In less you are not really part of this American democracy. It is simple as that. Give him a chance. That is what I did the last 4 years. Saying it's time to unite?
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Post by hawk on Dec 16, 2020 15:06:29 GMT -5
I'm saying it's time to stop being a bunch of assholes.
Everybody.
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Post by Barker on Dec 16, 2020 15:34:16 GMT -5
I like the new kinder gentler Hawk..... 😁😂 It's chilly out, be sure to layer up
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 16, 2020 16:21:30 GMT -5
I'm saying it's time to stop being a bunch of assholes. Everybody. Not sure that is so easy, so fast, but it needs to start at the top...which it clearly hasn't yet. A speech boasting about victory, provoking the former president, might seem apropos, but why? Thought we were moving forward?
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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 16, 2020 16:47:05 GMT -5
I'm saying it's time to stop being a bunch of assholes. Everybody. Not sure that is so easy, so fast, but it needs to start at the top...which it clearly hasn't yet. A speech boasting about victory, provoking the former president, might seem apropos, but why? Thought we were moving forward? Are you referring to the current president? The one who still insists said victory is illegitimate and should be overturned so he can stay in office and save America from all the radicals? Sorry, I get and appreciate where hawk is coming from and don’t disagree, but for me personally that kind of change can’t happen until the current president is actually the former president. I’m sure you’re shocked by that, lol. YMMV
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Post by promontoryrider on Dec 16, 2020 17:07:29 GMT -5
Not sure that is so easy, so fast, but it needs to start at the top...which it clearly hasn't yet. A speech boasting about victory, provoking the former president, might seem apropos, but why? Thought we were moving forward? Are you referring to the current president? The one who still insists said victory is illegitimate and should be overturned so he can stay in office and save America from all the radicals? Sorry, I get and appreciate where hawk is coming from and don’t disagree, but for me personally that kind of change can’t happen until the current president is actually the former president. I’m sure you’re shocked by that, lol. YMMV Shouldn't matter if we are all uniting and singing KUMBYA.
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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 18, 2020 12:21:24 GMT -5
In time, we will come to understand that these unimaginably enormous Russian hacks were "allowed" to happen by Trump-appointed officials. This breach was only enabled by the Trump administration's tacit agreement and consent. The fact that it's being revealed now is just part of the cover story. It's so that—when the scope of the cooperation is finally revealed—Trump et al can say, "Hey, we're the ones who discovered and went public with the hack to begin with!" It's part of their cover story. The Russians were allowed in and allowed to help themselves to any and all state secrets they wanted. Now, knowing that the party is really over, they're getting out—right before Biden people get in there and find it themselves and start pointing fingers. They're trying to cover/protect Trump by revealing the hack themselves. It's not even a very good story. My 10 year old nephew comes up with better cover stories than this. But that's Trump for ya. He's never even been that good of a con-man. We've just been that, incredibly gullible.
Yes, this is a full-tilt conspiracy theory. Sounds kinda silly doesn’t it? And no, I don’t really believe it either. But of you even consider believing any of Trump’s bs conspiracy theories about the rigging of elections, then this shouldn’t be much of a stretch.
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Post by bob on Dec 18, 2020 13:16:03 GMT -5
In time, we will come to understand that these unimaginably enormous Russian hacks were "allowed" to happen by Trump-appointed officials. This breach was only enabled by the Trump administration's tacit agreement and consent. The fact that it's being revealed now is just part of the cover story. It's so that—when the scope of the cooperation is finally revealed—Trump et al can say, "Hey, we're the ones who discovered and went public with the hack to begin with!" It's part of their cover story. The Russians were allowed in and allowed to help themselves to any and all state secrets they wanted. Now, knowing that the party is really over, they're getting out—right before Biden people get in there and find it themselves and start pointing fingers. They're trying to cover/protect Trump by revealing the hack themselves. It's not even a very good story. My 10 year old nephew comes up with better cover stories than this. But that's Trump for ya. He's never even been that good of a con-man. We've just been that, incredibly gullible. Yes, this is a full-tilt conspiracy theory. Sounds kinda silly doesn’t it? And no, I don’t really believe it either. But of you even consider believing any of Trump’s bs conspiracy theories about the rigging of elections, then this shouldn’t be much of a stretch. More gaslighting on ZNN I see.
What a transparently pathetic attempt to threaten people who dare tell the truth about the election with the conspiracy theorist label. SHAMELESS TROLL GASLIGHTING ON ZNN.
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Post by what is hip ? on Dec 18, 2020 16:01:28 GMT -5
In time, we will come to understand that these unimaginably enormous Russian hacks were "allowed" to happen by Trump-appointed officials. This breach was only enabled by the Trump administration's tacit agreement and consent. The fact that it's being revealed now is just part of the cover story. It's so that—when the scope of the cooperation is finally revealed—Trump et al can say, "Hey, we're the ones who discovered and went public with the hack to begin with!" It's part of their cover story. The Russians were allowed in and allowed to help themselves to any and all state secrets they wanted. Now, knowing that the party is really over, they're getting out—right before Biden people get in there and find it themselves and start pointing fingers. They're trying to cover/protect Trump by revealing the hack themselves. It's not even a very good story. My 10 year old nephew comes up with better cover stories than this. But that's Trump for ya. He's never even been that good of a con-man. We've just been that, incredibly gullible. Yes, this is a full-tilt conspiracy theory. Sounds kinda silly doesn’t it? And no, I don’t really believe it either. But of you even consider believing any of Trump’s bs conspiracy theories about the rigging of elections, then this shouldn’t be much of a stretch. More gaslighting on ZNN I see.
What a transparently pathetic attempt to threaten people who dare tell the truth about the election with the conspiracy theorist label. SHAMELESS TROLL GASLIGHTING ON ZNN.
where do you think he cut and pasted this from?
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Post by ZenMaster on Dec 19, 2020 20:32:34 GMT -5
Gaslighter In Chief... President Trump on Saturday promised a "wild" protest in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6, as he continued to deny that he lost the election.
"Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election," he tweeted. "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wild-protest-washington-dc-jan-6
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