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Post by junior on Jun 3, 2020 9:01:20 GMT -5
Police unions are really strong, as Mach pointed out. Obvious I know, but I would be focused on limiting their power. This, and the only way to ensure reforms stick NATIONWIDE, is for something to be done with the above at the federal level. Oh wait, that former POTUS, the Democrat one who actually had the full rights to stand high on this platform and create/force change (Police after all operate under the EXECUTIVE Branch) just came out and said he thinks these issues should be dealt with on a state and/or local level. Typical of Obama, speak nicely and pass the buck on action. He never was one to make the hard decisions, thank God for all of us he never was in a situation that actually demanded a hard/decisive/swift decision.Fact..
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jun 3, 2020 9:03:29 GMT -5
This, and the only way to ensure reforms stick NATIONWIDE, is for something to be done with the above at the federal level. Oh wait, that former POTUS, the Democrat one who actually had the full rights to stand high on this platform and create/force change (Police after all operate under the EXECUTIVE Branch) just came out and said he thinks these issues should be dealt with on a state and/or local level. Typical of Obama, speak nicely and pass the buck on action. He never was one to make the hard decisions, thank God for all of us he never was in a situation that actually demanded a hard/decisive/swift decision.Fact.. Truth. Dow just creeped over 26,000
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Post by CartMan on Jun 3, 2020 12:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by Machski on Jun 3, 2020 12:40:15 GMT -5
Definitely real news here. Hell, its even a right drive car. Definitely a picture from the US.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jun 3, 2020 13:40:00 GMT -5
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Post by junior on Jun 3, 2020 13:49:43 GMT -5
Definitely real news here. Hell, its even a right drive car. Definitely a picture from the US. Washington "Pist"...
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Post by what is hip ? on Jun 4, 2020 8:35:59 GMT -5
Drew Brees
cancelled.
For declaring he won't disrespect The Flag / National Anthem
of course, he was forced to cave and issue an apology to placate the tolerant left.
Could his hall of fame fate be put in jeopardy?? Like Schilling?
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 4, 2020 8:58:47 GMT -5
Could his hall of fame fate be put in jeopardy?? He’ll be in first ballot, I’ll wager whatever you want on that. Edit to add: I have many friends and acquaintances who serve or have served and none of them that I have spoken to about this have a problem with players kneeling. I know not everyone feels the same way and I respect different opinions on this issue in particular. Drew is welcome to feel like he does, but the right to kneel is one of the things our service members are out there protecting and many of them understand and respect that as well.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jun 4, 2020 9:03:02 GMT -5
Unanimous first ballot HOF. He will say he is sorry and move on. He has done amazing things off the field to support causes.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 4, 2020 9:08:53 GMT -5
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 4, 2020 9:49:31 GMT -5
He will say he is sorry and move on. He already has: “I would like to apologize to my friends, teammates, the City of New Orleans, the black community, NFL community and anyone I hurt with my comments yesterday. In speaking with some of you, it breaks my heart to know the pain I have caused. In an attempt to talk about respect, unity, and solidarity centered around the American flag and the national anthem, I made comments that were insensitive and completely missed the mark on the issues we are facing right now as a country. They lacked awareness and any type of compassion or empathy. Instead, those words have become divisive and hurtful and have misled people into believing that somehow I am an enemy. This could not be further from the truth, and is not an accurate reflection of my heart or my character. This is where I stand: I stand with the black community in the fight against systemic racial injustice and police brutality and support the creation of real policy change that will make a difference. I condemn the years of oppression that have taken place throughout our black communities and still exists today. I acknowledge that we as Americans, including myself, have not done enough to fight for that equality or to truly understand the struggles and plight of the black community. I recognize that I am part of the solution and can be a leader for the black community in this movement. I will never know what it’s like to be a black man or raise black children in America but I will work every day to put myself in those shoes and fight for what is right. I have ALWAYS been an ally, never an enemy. I am sick about the way my comments were perceived yesterday, but I take full responsibility and accountability. I recognize that I should do less talking and more listening...and when the black community is talking about their pain, we all need to listen. For that, I am very sorry and I ask your forgiveness.”
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Post by what is hip ? on Jun 4, 2020 9:54:25 GMT -5
Could his hall of fame fate be put in jeopardy?? He’ll be in first ballot, I’ll wager whatever you want on that. Edit to add: I have many friends and acquaintances who serve or have served and none of them that I have spoken to about this have a problem with players kneeling. I know not everyone feels the same way and I respect different opinions on this issue in particular. Drew is welcome to feel like he does, but the right to kneel is one of the things our service members are out there protecting and many of them understand and respect that as well . No, he was not "welcomed" to feel like he does. He was cancelled because he feels like he does. The very people who have the right to kneel and express that right come hard at the people who want to respect the flag. It is not a 2 way street.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 4, 2020 10:21:11 GMT -5
He’ll be in first ballot, I’ll wager whatever you want on that. Edit to add: I have many friends and acquaintances who serve or have served and none of them that I have spoken to about this have a problem with players kneeling. I know not everyone feels the same way and I respect different opinions on this issue in particular. Drew is welcome to feel like he does, but the right to kneel is one of the things our service members are out there protecting and many of them understand and respect that as well . No, he was not "welcomed" to feel like he does. He was cancelled because he feels like he does. The very people who have the right to kneel and express that right come hard at the people who want to respect the flag. It is not a 2 way street. Some people will always do that. And if you haven’t noticed, the reason behind the kneeling protests is a particularly hot topic right now. And for some his words were hurtful. All that said, not everyone who had strong reactions are from “the left”, and I think it is unfortunate that so many want to make this a right vs left issue (not saying you are, but that is happening). Generalizations are not particularly helpful or productive. PS - when I say he is welcome to feel like he does, I am using a common expression to say it is his right to feel that way. Other people’s reactions to him don’t change that.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Jun 4, 2020 10:46:38 GMT -5
Drew is a legend and loved in NO, this will be forgotten tonight. WIH, just google him and look at all he has done for Katrina victims, Covid, etc...he made a mistake, he moved on. People aren't perfect..except Lebron who seems to think his voice is the only voice. Guy is starting to annoy me.
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Post by ZenMaster on Jun 4, 2020 10:50:26 GMT -5
Guy is starting to annoy me. Starting? He lost me with “the decision.” And for killing the Cs so many times over the years, lol
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