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Post by noturns on Oct 22, 2020 22:04:07 GMT -5
as big as Trump lost the 1st debate... Trump cleaned the Big Guy's clock tonight. Big lesson learned tonight. Never let Chris Christie pick your FBI director and never let Chris Christie coach you for a debate. Chris Christie sucks. Oh, and Chris Wallace sucks too. He threw fuel on that 1st debate. Could not agree more WIH; the debate and Christie.
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Post by Barker on Oct 23, 2020 6:15:44 GMT -5
as big as Trump lost the 1st debate... Trump cleaned the Big Guy's clock tonight. People rarely “win” this type of debate despite partisan polls. But they often lose, like Trump did with the first one. Trump didn’t hurt himself this time, but he didn’t help himself either. He did repeat a lot of lies. Meanwhile Biden did not tell as many lies or make a huge gaffe and that’s all he needed to do. Few if any minds were changed and it probably won’t change the race much either.
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 23, 2020 7:45:00 GMT -5
as big as Trump lost the 1st debate... Trump cleaned the Big Guy's clock tonight. People rarely “win” this type of debate despite partisan polls. But they often lose, like Trump did with the first one. Trump didn’t hurt himself this time, but he didn’t help himself either. He did repeat a lot of lies. Meanwhile Biden did not tell as many lies or make a huge gaffe and that’s all he needed to do. Few if any minds were changed and it probably won’t change the race much either. Joe just told more substantial lies, but Joe always has a "plan." That is his standard answer, like for Covid, I will put my "plan" in place. What is the plan Joe?
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Post by Barker on Oct 23, 2020 8:19:12 GMT -5
Joe always has a "plan." That is his standard answer, like for Covid, I will put my "plan" in place. What is the plan Joe? joebiden.com/covid19/
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 23, 2020 8:31:09 GMT -5
Joe always has a "plan." That is his standard answer, like for Covid, I will put my "plan" in place. What is the plan Joe? joebiden.com/covid19/already happening.....
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 23, 2020 8:54:04 GMT -5
47 years of bs from Joe.....
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Post by what is hip ? on Oct 23, 2020 9:41:14 GMT -5
as big as Trump lost the 1st debate... Trump cleaned the Big Guy's clock tonight. People rarely “win” this type of debate despite partisan polls. But they often lose, like Trump did with the first one. Trump didn’t hurt himself this time, but he didn’t help himself either. He did repeat a lot of lies. Meanwhile Biden did not tell as many lies or make a huge gaffe and that’s all he needed to do. Few if any minds were changed and it probably won’t change the race much either. I would think Biden damaged his chances in Pennsylvania with the oil response and his blatant lies on fracking. Since Pennsylvania could very well decide the election, I would consider that a significant gaffe and a whopping lie all tied into one big Biden knot.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 23, 2020 9:43:01 GMT -5
Al DJT needs now is for Biden to do something similar in FL and its game over....that one discussion about oil and PA was a huge blow to Basement Joe.
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Post by bob on Oct 23, 2020 14:31:49 GMT -5
Joe always has a "plan." That is his standard answer, like for Covid, I will put my "plan" in place. What is the plan Joe? joebiden.com/covid19/Joe told us his plan "I'll shut it down" .
China Joe got dribbled like a basketball last night.
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Post by MonkeyBrook on Oct 23, 2020 14:33:47 GMT -5
for anyone to say Biden helped himself last night, is insane.
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Post by ZenMaster on Oct 23, 2020 15:02:18 GMT -5
Debates have become so subjective, everyone sees what they want to see, as the the post-debate polls would indicate as they pretty much mirror the national election polls. Biden crushes Trump in all the post-debate snap polls, except one flagged by Sean Hannitynews.yahoo.com/biden-crushes-trump-post-debate-051400914.htmlWho won the presidential debate? Polls show what Americans think of Trump, Bidenwww.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article246659213.htmlDepending on how you measure it, you can easily make the case that Trump hasn’t “won” any debates, yet he still got elected. So while I agree that Biden’s answers on fracking and oil Industry didn’t help him, just not sure they really hurt him either especially when balanced out with Trump’a stance on climate change.
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Post by promontoryrider on Oct 23, 2020 15:04:57 GMT -5
Do you think there are many undecided voters still out there?
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Post by Barker on Oct 23, 2020 15:41:39 GMT -5
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Post by what is hip ? on Oct 23, 2020 17:50:27 GMT -5
Debates have become so subjective, everyone sees what they want to see, as the the post-debate polls would indicate as they pretty much mirror the national election polls. Biden crushes Trump in all the post-debate snap polls, except one flagged by Sean Hannitynews.yahoo.com/biden-crushes-trump-post-debate-051400914.htmlWho won the presidential debate? Polls show what Americans think of Trump, Bidenwww.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article246659213.htmlDepending on how you measure it, you can easily make the case that Trump hasn’t “won” any debates, yet he still got elected. So while I agree that Biden’s answers on fracking and oil Industry didn’t help him, just not sure they really hurt him either especially when balanced out with Trump’a stance on climate change. Even Biden knows he fucked up the oil issue. PA could cost him the election. He spent most of today trying to "clean up" his comments - back tracking extensively. Who would have thought Trump could have won the Climate Change segment of this debate...but he did. Biden also had a watch moment - he was toast and was counting the seconds to the end and got caught. 6% undecided I read somewhere.
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Post by what is hip ? on Oct 24, 2020 16:56:08 GMT -5
jeesus...
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